Bazball final verdict

[loterry1994]

Bazball really is a mixed bag though can’t call it a big success this series as it drew. Too many good positions thrown away from it.

 

[Silver Silva]

Bazball works and it's entertaining. Plus the players look like they really enjoy themselves, happy working environment creates better players.

 

[Ali TT]

I think it could be more ruthless - England really should have won the second test in NZ and at Egblaston - but a drawn series against the otherwise No1 ranked side in test cricket can't be seen as a down mark.

 

[Aidan11]

It will be interesting to see how this plays out in India.

 

[Molehill]

Bazball really is a mixed bag though can’t call it a big success this series as it drew. Too many good positions thrown away from it.

The one question you have to ask is, would we have created those good positions under the previous methods? We probably should have lost in 2019, we probably should have won in 2023. We're undoubtedly a better team now than then.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out in India.

It can't really be any worse than previous efforts. At some point, it's going to come off (particularly if there's a flat pitch or two) and India will be wondering how to stop it.

 

[Spark]

The one question you have to ask is, would we have created those good positions under the previous methods? We probably should have lost in 2019, we probably should have won in 2023. We're undoubtedly a better team now than then.



It can't really be any worse than previous efforts. At some point, it's going to come off (particularly if there's a flat pitch or two) and India will be wondering how to stop it.

Yeah I think we safely say that you're going to be getting a full set of Ahemedebad 2021, not Ahmedebad 2023.

 

[Andy19]

Bazball only works against weak teams it won't work in India or Australia.

Australia beat Bazball before lyon got injured.

Australia beat Bazball overall 3-2...

England never ending luck at home covering up how bad Bazball is. Australia 11-3 in last WTC cycle last playing normal cricket.

Australia style of cricket is the best.

Even South africa can beat England

 

[Molehill]

Bazball only works against weak teams it won't work in India or Australia.

Australia beat Bazball before lyon got injured.

Australia beat Bazball overall 3-2...

England never ending luck at home covering up how bad Bazball is. Australia 11-3 in last WTC cycle last playing normal cricket.

Australia style of cricket is the best.

Even South africa can beat England

Still can't win in England though....

 

[Howe_zat]

The 'even South Africa can beat England', randomly thrown in at the end when the idea floated to the top of his head, not bothering to consider whether or not they did or at any point think to look up what might've happened

Truly brainful posting

 

[Molehill]

Yeah I think we safely say that you're going to be getting a full set of Ahemedebad 2021, not Ahmedebad 2023.

The rank turners give England a chance too (as Australia showed). If there's a ball with your name on it sooner or later, may as well try and smash a few whilst you can.

 

[Adders]

Bazball only works against weak teams it won't work in India or Australia.

Australia beat Bazball before lyon got injured.

Australia beat Bazball overall 3-2...

England never ending luck at home covering up how bad Bazball is. Australia 11-3 in last WTC cycle last playing normal cricket.

Australia style of cricket is the best.

Even South africa can beat England

There's been a lot of blow in idiots come through here for this series.......congrats, amongst some very stiff competition you've managed to stand out as the biggest idiot of them all.

 

[Andy19]

The 'even South Africa can beat England', randomly thrown in at the end when the idea floated to the top of his head, not bothering to consider whether or not they did or at any point think to look up what might've happened

Truly brainful posting

I never said South Africa beat England last time they played. only South Africa can beat England meaning in the future.

Last time it was England 2-1.

However South africa get their act together the next series will be easy win for them against England.

 

[Line and Length]

Bazball only works against weak teams it won't work in India or Australia.

Australia beat Bazball before lyon got injured.

Australia beat Bazball overall 3-2...

England never ending luck at home covering up how bad Bazball is. Australia 11-3 in last WTC cycle last playing normal cricket.

Australia style of cricket is the best.

Even South africa can beat England

Where did you get the 3-2 from? The series was 2-2 with the drawn game poised heavily in England's favour before the rain.

Bazball is a media concocted term for the more positive approach that England have adopted. Calling it "bad" is ridiculous - but no more than can be expected from Andy19.

Australia's 11-3 form in the last WTC is a credit to the players. Style doesn't come into it.

 

[Andy19]

Where did you get the 3-2 from? The series was 2-2 with the drawn game poised heavily in England's favour before the rain.

Bazball is a media concocted term for the more positive approach that England have adopted. Calling it "bad" is ridiculous - but no more than can be expected from Andy19.

Australia's 11-3 form in the last WTC is a credit to the players. Style doesn't come into it.

Australia won tests 1-2 plus moral victory of the 5th test thanks to unfair ball change and rain.

^England win 3rd and 4th tests...

Bazball is entertaining however seing as England can't beat Australia and India at Home!. Calling Bazball bad is fair

Style does come into Australia 11-3 because if played reckless cricket like England would lost more tests.

Australia perfect balance of cricket style lead them to 1st WTC championship.

England Bazball only beat teams like Pakistan and new Zealand, South Africa.

 

[Victor Ian]

I think you can safely call bazball a success. The panic effect for the opposition is real. Until a strategy that slows it down is found, England will do better than the old way. That is a success. The only downside is not lasting 80+ overs to ensure the other team gets penalised for slow over rates from chasing the ball all over the field.

 

[Victor Ian]

I'm looking forward to England in India. Playing to survive, like Australia did in India is why India always win. If you are going to get out, you may as well score quickly before that ball with your name comes along.

 

[Shady Slim]

Yeah I expected it to be very boom or bust but it’s been unexpectedly consistent. Their lowest score this summer was around 230 I think?

tbf as was pointed out a huge part of that was lower order coming to the party when the top didn't - cf say the johnson ashes where the english top order wasn't actually dreadful per se even in the face of really generational bowling, but australia just kept getting bailed out by haddin et al to an extent england weren't by their non top order.

point being, i think it's fair to say the top order of england still had some moments that would give other teams a cause to be optimistic

 

[Kirkut]

I’m interested to see how other countries try to lift its most effective elements. I suspect that actively trying to punish bowlers for being predictable will change the game. Everyone should play Boland the way they did from now on, and that might extend to similar bowlers. Be as unorthodox as you need to to get them off their spot.

Not on hard seamy roads.

 

[Kirkut]

Won’t work against Bumrah and India - demolished
Won’t work in Pakistan - whitewashed
Won’t work against Pat Cummins - hiding at first change

Next up, won’t work in India. Cheers

Even Indian fans don't go hysterical with home draws like that (not had any in a long time), you must keep your expectations higher.

 

[Molehill]

Not on hard seamy roads.

I doubt anyone will get a chance to play Boland at Test level again.