The best ATG fast attack

[Migara]

We are all told that attack of Marshall, Holding, Croft and Garner was the best ever. But they rarely played as such.

The best ever WI pace attack would ne Marshall, Ambrose, Holding and Garner. How ever is this the best we can assemble?

A SAF attack of Steyn, Donald, Rabada and Pollock is as equally effective and perhaps bit more rounded to bowl on unhelpful conditions.

If three man attacks are considered it would be Marshall, Ambrose and Garner vs Steyn, Donald and Rabada.

Are their any better 3 man or 4 man ATG attacks can be assembled per country?

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Barnes
Trueman
Larwood
Woakes

 

[bagapath]

We are all told that attack of Marshall, Holding, Croft and Garner was the best ever. But they rarely played as such.

Roberts, Holding, Croft and Garner was the original four pronged pace attack. that is probably what you are referring to.

I am happy to take Roberts, Marshall, Holding and Garner - a real combo that played 9 tests together.

 

[Coronis]

Roberts, Holding, Croft and Garner was the original four pronged pace attack. that is probably what you are referring to.

I am happy to take Roberts, Marshall, Holding and Garner - a real combo that played 9 tests together.

I’m being shown 6 tests (by statsguru at least). 2 in England in 1980 and 4 vs India in 1983. Interesting stats for each bowler.

Roberts: 33 @ 17.48
Marshall: 23 @ 27.08
Garner: 19 @ 25.36
Holding: 15 @ 45.86

We are all told that attack of Marshall, Holding, Croft and Garner was the best ever. But they rarely played as such.

The best ever WI pace attack would ne Marshall, Ambrose, Holding and Garner. How ever is this the best we can assemble?

A SAF attack of Steyn, Donald, Rabada and Pollock is as equally effective and perhaps bit more rounded to bowl on unhelpful conditions.

If three man attacks are considered it would be Marshall, Ambrose and Garner vs Steyn, Donald and Rabada.

Are their any better 3 man or 4 man ATG attacks can be assembled per country?

Idk about better. But comparableish to Windies and SA

McGrath/Davidson/Lindwall/Lillee

You could even go to 5 with them if you wanted.

McGrath/Davidson/Lindwall/Lillee/Cummins

Marshall/Ambrose/Garner/Holding/Roberts

Steyn/Donald/Pollock/Rabada/Adcock

And ofc Windies can go to 6 pacers with Walsh.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

For 3 man attack Marshall/Ambrose//Garner is my no.1, closely followed by Barnes/Larwood/Trueman.

 

[fredfertang]

Hadlee, Bond, Cowie and Boult

 

[bagapath]

For 3 man attack Marshall/Ambrose//Garner is my no.1, closely followed by Barnes/Larwood/Trueman.

My top three pacer combos ranked countrywise

Marshall Garner Ambrose
Lillee McGrath Lindwall
Imran Akram Waqar
Steyn Donald Pollock
Trueman Snow Barnes
Hadlee Bolt Wagner
Kapil Bumrah Shami
Vass Malinga Ratnayake

 

[trundler]

Barnes/Larwood/Trueman

There's no way this is better than Australia, Pakistan, SA or close to the West Indies. Can't have Anderson behind Larwood now but even then England's attack is 5th best at best.

 

[Silver Silva]

Imran Khan
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
Mohammad Asif

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Hadlee, Bond, Cowie and Boult

With the 1st three being new ball bowlers I'd opt for Wagner over Boult (or pick Jamieson as 4th seamer if he can play for a few more years).

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Jason Gillespie, Shane George, Mark Harrity

 

[Silver Line]

pakistan could do it with a single candidate for each format and still be labelled world class lineups damnn..

Test

• Imran Khan
• Waqar Younis
• Mohammad Asif
• Fazal Mahmood

ODI

• Wasim Akram
• Shoaib Akhtar
• Shaheen Shah Afridi
• Sarfraz Nawaz

T20

• Umar Gul
• Mohammad Amir
• Haris Rauf
• Naseem Shah

Insanity. can any other nation beat Pakistan 2/3, by selecting one candidate each in a four man attack?

 

[Socerer 01]

pakistan could do it with a single candidate for each format and still be labelled world class lineups damnn..

Test

• Imran Khan
• Waqar Younis
• Mohammad Asif
• Fazal Mahmood

ODI

• Wasim Akram
• Shoaib Akhtar
• Shaheen Shah Afridi
• Sarfraz Nawaz

T20

• Umar Gul
• Mohammad Amir
• Haris Rauf
• Naseem Shah

Insanity. can any other nation beat Pakistan 2/3, by selecting one candidate each in a four man attack?

Australia is the obvious answer

 

[Prince EWS]

Barnes
Trueman
Larwood
Woakes

Rough on Hoggard.

 

[Shri]

pakistan could do it with a single candidate for each format and still be labelled world class lineups damnn..

Test

• Imran Khan
• Waqar Younis
• Mohammad Asif
• Fazal Mahmood

ODI

• Wasim Akram
• Shoaib Akhtar
• Shaheen Shah Afridi
• Sarfraz Nawaz

T20

• Umar Gul
• Mohammad Amir
• Haris Rauf
• Naseem Shah

Insanity. can any other nation beat Pakistan 2/3, by selecting one candidate each in a four man attack?

are you going for one fixer per format

 

[Socerer 01]

are you going for one fixer per format

spread the riches around

 

[Silver Line]

are you going for one fixer per format

yes i do recall Amir, Wasim and Asif fixing india up, why do u ask

 

[Shri]

yes i do recall Amir, Wasim and Asif fixing india up, why do u ask

listen to me, those are great bowlers with deep pockets tailored in sharjah, uk etc

 

[Silver Line]

listen to me, those are great bowlers with deep pockets tailored in sharjah, uk etc

yes yes these three kept indian batsmen in their deep pockets many times especially in sharjah, why are you telling me this

 

[Shri]

yes yes these three kept indian batsmen in their deep pockets many times especially in sharjah, why are you telling me this

idk man. phast bowlers are useless when you have won like one single test in aus for 30 years