Who is Zimbabwe's 🇿🇼 greatest ODI player ?

[Fuller Pilch]

Hard to choose between Campbell, Ervine, Goodwin, Hamilton Masakadza, and Houghton for the last batting spot.

 

[andruid]

Elton Chigumbura?

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

Elton Chigumbura?

He just played a long time..he was a bit like what Dasun Shanaka is now for Sri Lanka

 

[andruid]

He just played a long time..he was a bit like what Dasun Shanaka is now for Sri Lanka

He laid waste to Kenya more than once. Back when Zimbabwe had the time and we had ODI status. Fun times

 

[Migara]

Yes, Paul Strang was very good. I will probably have Murray Goodwin ahead of Craig Ervine and bat him at 3 for more solidity.

Johnson, G.Flower, Goodwin, Taylor, A.Flower, Sean Williams, Raza, Streak, Brandes/Blignaut, P.Strang, Muzarabani will be my team.

That team bats to 10 and has loads of all-rounders.

Goodwin was good in tests. Not much in ODIs.

 

[AndyZaltzHair]

ATG ODI side for Zimbabwe

N. Johnson
G. Flower
A. Flower (wk)
A. Campbell (c)
B. Taylor
S. Williams
S. Raza
H. Streak
A. Blignaut
R. Price
B. Strang

The likes of Blignaut and Streak could be promoted to boost the run rate if required.

Thats some serious quality side

 

[Kenneth Viljoen]

Graeme Cremer also deserves a shout ..
119 ODI wickets in 96 matches @ 30 , captained the side and a handy lower order batsman

 

[Socerer 01]

He just played a long time..he was a bit like what Dasun Shanaka is now for Sri Lanka

Dusan is a wasteman

 

[CartyDurham]

Andy Flower

 

[Migara]

He just played a long time..he was a bit like what Dasun Shanaka is now for Sri Lanka

Guy Whittal was another

 

[NZTailender]

Mark Vermuelen could be pretty firey on his day

 

[Prince EWS]

Mark Vermuelen could be pretty firey on his day

He set the crowd alight.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Current players getting overrated in this thread massively

 

[Krypto]

Current players getting overrated in this thread massively

I was waiting for this comment as i agree , very surprised also for the love of Raza . Williams and Ervine has a similar body of work . However comparing that to Andy Flower who maintained a above 50 average in both formats for most of his career its strange . If you compare they more comparable to players like Houghton and Goodwin and even then they look better .

 

[TheJediBrah]

I was waiting for this comment as i agree , very surprised also for the love of Raza . Williams and Ervine has a similar body of work . However comparing that to Andy Flower who maintained a above 50 average in both formats for most of his career its strange . If you compare they more comparable to players like Houghton and Goodwin and even then they look better .

I think people can have trouble judging objective quality. Flowers, Goodwin, Streak, Johnson etc played virtually all their cricket against proper international teams, whereas modern Zim players almost never do. It's all other "minnows" and when they do play Test nations it's usually against 2nd string sides. Hence people look at Raza, Williams et al putting together impressive performances against these weaker opposition and it compares favourably to how Goodwin and co did against actual ATG 90s/early-00s sides.

For Raza in particular though he has had some really good recent form and IIRC some big knocks against India which would have left an impression. I don't begrudge anyone rating him highly

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I was waiting for this comment as i agree , very surprised also for the love of Raza . Williams and Ervine has a similar body of work . However comparing that to Andy Flower who maintained a above 50 average in both formats for most of his career its strange . If you compare they more comparable to players like Houghton and Goodwin and even then they look better .

Flower averaged mid 30s in ODIs

 

[Krypto]

Flower averaged mid 30s in ODIs

I stated incorrectly was referring to FC and Test . Both sides of it .Was trying to speak towards consistency. Point still stands for me , there is a huge gap in these cricketers body of work .

 

[TheJediBrah]

Andy Flower would have RTD-like stats or even better if he played modern Zimbabwe cricket

 

[trundler]

I think people can have trouble judging objective quality. Flowers, Goodwin, Streak, Johnson etc played virtually all their cricket against proper international teams, whereas modern Zim players almost never do. It's all other "minnows" and when they do play Test nations it's usually against 2nd string sides. Hence people look at Raza, Williams et al putting together impressive performances against these weaker opposition and it compares favourably to how Goodwin and co did against actual ATG 90s/early-00s sides.

For Raza in particular though he has had some really good recent form and IIRC some big knocks against India which would have left an impression. I don't begrudge anyone rating him highly

Rare mostly accurate post from TJB. I dread to see how he'll make up for it.

 

[honestbharani]

Rare mostly accurate post from TJB. I dread to see how he'll make up for it.

The Ashes is on. He wud have made up for it by the end of today's play.