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*Official* First Test (Edgbaston, Birmingham) 16–20 June

Spark

Spark

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I mean it's almost certainly just because Khawaja batted for like a million years in this game but it is genuinely very strange that he's decided to pick a fight with possibly the most mild-mannered, easy-going cricketer in the world game.
 
Shri

Shri

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what a cringe mother****er

Instead of pride, a landmark day for Ollie Robinson will be remembered for all the wrong reasons after a series of racist and ***ist tweets sent in 2012 and 2013 were unearthed and publicised while he was making his debut as a Test cricketer at Lord’s.

The tweets, in one of which he wrote that “my new muslim friend is the bomb” and in another that “a lot of girls need to learn the art of class”, were all posted between April 2012 and June 2013. In a third he wrote that “females who play video games actually tend to have more *** than the girls who don’t”.
 
Nintendo

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Shri said:
what a cringe mother****er

Instead of pride, a landmark day for Ollie Robinson will be remembered for all the wrong reasons after a series of racist and ***ist tweets sent in 2012 and 2013 were unearthed and publicised while he was making his debut as a Test cricketer at Lord’s.

The tweets, in one of which he wrote that “my new muslim friend is the bomb” and in another that “a lot of girls need to learn the art of class”, were all posted between April 2012 and June 2013. In a third he wrote that “females who play video games actually tend to have more *** than the girls who don’t”.
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The bloke was a teenager when he tweeted that stuff, 99% of people are cringy amalgamations of random things they've heard/personality traits they've mimicked from others till there early 20's.
 
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Spark said:
I mean it's almost certainly just because Khawaja batted for like a million years in this game but it is genuinely very strange that he's decided to pick a fight with possibly the most mild-mannered, easy-going cricketer in the world game.
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Surely if you had anti-muslim tweets surface and get you in hot water (and any common sense) you wouldn't be going after the 1 muslim guy in the opposition. Not a great look.

Reckon he's just a moron tbh
 
Woodster

Woodster

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Burgey said:
That's as close as England will get to a win. Aus will only get better as they both acclimatize and adapt to the slog fest approach of their opponents.

Aus were chronically under done and their best two batsmen contributed nothing, yet they still won. You could see how rusty Cummins was first dig but once he started getting better, England predictably couldn't handle him. Add to that Haze hadn't played in six months and the deck was completely unsuited to Boland. England couldn't dismiss Cummins and Lyon on a wearing deck with a new or an old ball. They were done in by their limited attack and the Aus approach to wear them down by batting time and being patient. Who'd have thought?

Aus have had their first look at biff ball, and they've stared it down. England lost because they played without regard to the conditions or their opponents. That and the fact they just aren't as good as Australia, bar about three proven players - Root, Stokes and Broad. And Stokes is pretty crocked with his knee. This isn't a half strength Pakistan or a Boult-less NZ they're playing ffs. Aus basically have them covered across all conditions and in all facets of the game, except run rate. And we all saw how really important that was, didn't we?

People on here are moaning about England's missed chances as though Aus played at 100%. They dropped four catches in the first innings themselves. Aus were at about 65-70% at best. England went with a flat deck because they know their batting can't handle sideways movement at all, but their bowlers are ineffective without something in the deck to help them, Broad excepted. Aus have a world class spinner, England have a cardboard cut out of one. The only way England can bat is to go as hard as they can on flat pitches because apart from Root they lack the technique or temperament to grind out a tough lest knock against a good attack. They won a good toss, had the best of the conditions, puffed out their chests and played like idiots. Because that's all they have, all they know and all they're capable of.

The gap between these sides isn't tiny like people are suggesting, it's a yawning chasm. It was made closer here by virtue of the deck, Australia being rusty and two of the best players in the world missing out at once. The series is as done now as it was when I called this six months ago. The result here flattered England. They are going to get steam rolled, because apart from lack of ability, for all the plaudits the wondrous new approach gets, it's actually incredibly one dimensional and extremely limited.

4-0 Aus with the rain saving a whitewash. You all should have got on months ago.
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Can’t figure out if this intentionally a one-sided view that you hope turns out to be true or you genuinely believe it?!

Australia were underdone, as were England and I expect both teams to make less mistakes as the series wears on. Root, Bairstow, Brook, Anderson, Stokes, Moeen, etc, have all played minimal (or zero) red ball cricket in recent weeks and while that wasn’t startlingly obvious for some, it did throw up some unsurprising issues for others.

England are not as good as Australia, I think most people will agree with that, however, I’m not convinced the gap is entirely as wide as you really hope it is. This is going to be a tight series, England will continue to play their way and some days will go horribly and other days will feel like a very very long day in the field for Cummins and co.

You talk about England’s struggles with the bat and yes, before this new era we were so Root reliant and we’ve transformed almost overnight with simply a freedom given, the removal of fear with a change of mindset into a team opponents won’t like setting any less than 400 in a final innings! I don’t know how this has happened but it’s the ‘genius’ of Baz and Stokes!

I can only assume in your final summing up that there is still some bitterness there towards England because we’re playing the type of cricket you just wish your boys had the balls to do! It won’t be successful all the time and how long it can continue to be successful is open to debate. It still needs tinkering with while we fully get used to playing the type of Test cricket no one has ever braved. Can it work against the very best teams, so far yes, but Australia may be a different proposition. With your defensive boundary riders out in the first few overs and steady accumulators in Khawaja, Smith, Labuschagne, etc, who are super-effective, but it still grates that they will not get people in through the gates or have people outside of cricket talking about cricket again! Instead ‘Bazball’ continues to get the headlines, bravery a word formally associated with Australia is now used more for England’s approach to Test cricket. You are the best side, but part of you wishes you were more like us!
 
Spark

Spark

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Woodster said:
they will not get people in through the gates or have people outside of cricket talking about cricket again! Instead ‘Bazball’ continues to get the headlines, bravery a word formally associated with Australia is now used more for England’s approach to Test cricket. You are the best side, but part of you wishes you were more like us!
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Yes, Australia, infamous for its poor Test match attendances.
 
social

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Woodster said:
Can’t figure out if this intentionally a one-sided view that you hope turns out to be true or you genuinely believe it?!

Australia were underdone, as were England and I expect both teams to make less mistakes as the series wears on. Root, Bairstow, Brook, Anderson, Stokes, Moeen, etc, have all played minimal (or zero) red ball cricket in recent weeks and while that wasn’t startlingly obvious for some, it did throw up some unsurprising issues for others.

England are not as good as Australia, I think most people will agree with that, however, I’m not convinced the gap is entirely as wide as you really hope it is. This is going to be a tight series, England will continue to play their way and some days will go horribly and other days will feel like a very very long day in the field for Cummins and co.

You talk about England’s struggles with the bat and yes, before this new era we were so Root reliant and we’ve transformed almost overnight with simply a freedom given, the removal of fear with a change of mindset into a team opponents won’t like setting any less than 400 in a final innings! I don’t know how this has happened but it’s the ‘genius’ of Baz and Stokes!

I can only assume in your final summing up that there is still some bitterness there towards England because we’re playing the type of cricket you just wish your boys had the balls to do! It won’t be successful all the time and how long it can continue to be successful is open to debate. It still needs tinkering with while we fully get used to playing the type of Test cricket no one has ever braved. Can it work against the very best teams, so far yes, but Australia may be a different proposition. With your defensive boundary riders out in the first few overs and steady accumulators in Khawaja, Smith, Labuschagne, etc, who are super-effective, but it still grates that they will not get people in through the gates or have people outside of cricket talking about cricket again! Instead ‘Bazball’ continues to get the headlines, bravery a word formally associated with Australia is now used more for England’s approach to Test cricket. You are the best side, but part of you wishes you were more like us!
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England’s biggest problem is no free to air broadcast

The Ashes in whatever style would get more eyes on it if that was the case
 
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Woodster said:
I can only assume in your final summing up that there is still some bitterness there towards England because we’re playing the type of cricket you just wish your boys had the balls to do! It won’t be successful all the time and how long it can continue to be successful is open to debate. It still needs tinkering with while we fully get used to playing the type of Test cricket no one has ever braved. Can it work against the very best teams, so far yes, but Australia may be a different proposition. With your defensive boundary riders out in the first few overs and steady accumulators in Khawaja, Smith, Labuschagne, etc, who are super-effective, but it still grates that they will not get people in through the gates or have people outside of cricket talking about cricket again! Instead ‘Bazball’ continues to get the headlines, bravery a word formally associated with Australia is now used more for England’s approach to Test cricket. You are the best side, but part of you wishes you were more like us!
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As a neutral, this is exactly the sort of stuff that I'm getting tired of and has drawn me towards supporting the Aussies this year.
 
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Burgey

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Woodster said:
I can only assume in your final summing up that there is still some bitterness there towards England because we’re playing the type of cricket you just wish your boys had the balls to do!
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No. I'd rather my boys back themselves to be able to play at different tempos according to the state of the conditions, the game and the opposition. Because that's how you become then remain a really good side.
 
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