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Mitchell Marsh

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Which allrounders have Pakistan had since Imran? Afridi, Razzaq, Azhar Mahmoud, and M Hafeez? 3 out of 4 were fine white ball players, but none did that much in tests.
Lots of flashes in the pan but no standouts. Common theme. ☹
 

Qlder

International Debutant
Greatest Test allrounders Botham, Imran, Dev and Hadlee all appeared in the 80's. No-one has emerged fit to to tie their boot laces since ;)
 

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Greatest Test allrounders Botham, Imran, Dev and Hadlee all appeared in the 80's. No-one has emerged fit to to tie their boot laces since ;)
Kallis says hi.

Best test allrounders post Tony Greig:

Kallis
Imran
Hadlee
Botham
Shakib
Pollock
Kapil
Jadeja
Ashwin
Stokes
Cairns
McMillan
Flintoff
Vettori
De Grandhomme/Watson/Oram/Holder
 
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Qlder

International Debutant
Kallis says hi.

Best test allrounders post Tony Greig:

Kallis
Imran
Hadlee
Botham
Shakib
Pollock
Kapil
Jadeja
Ashwin
Stokes
Cairns
McMillan
Flintoff
Vettori
De Grandhomme
Next you'll say Glenn McGrath was better than Dennis Lillee lol at that ?
 

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
Also Tim Southee > Lillee

Southee has 370 wickets, while Dennis only took 355. Lillee averaged 68.3 in Asia compared to Southee's worldclass 26.6, and Southee averages 24.7 against India (the best team of his era) while Lillee averaged 27.7 against the Windies (the best team of his era). Irrefutable proof.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Also Tim Southee > Lillee

Southee has 370 wickets, while Dennis only took 355. Lillee averaged 68.3 in Asia compared to Southee's worldclass 26.6, and Southee averages 24.7 against India (the best team of his era) while Lillee averaged 27.7 against the Windies (the best team of his era). Irrefutable proof.
Yeah Southee v Hoggard is harder to split but both are definitely better than Lillee.
 

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