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SillyCowCorner1
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One of the best youth team performances by a Moo or GG player.
Pocock!!!!
Pocock!!!!
I love going through peoples stat pages and have gone through the entirety of the CWC group and this made me do a double take as i couldn't remember anyone's stat page except CNERD club being that impressive . Realized you used friendlies . If he can achieve that in competitive he will rival my top 5 of which 2 is still playing .as well as Raun Shkorer from ZCC .
On the note of the above and because I was encouraged on all time lists which I adore . Below is a all time Moneyball team , meaning going off numbers . Do you guys agree or disagree any changes or people that needs to be in the team ?
1 Yamin Malik 12469 runs , Average of 34.9 as Opener .112 catches as fielder
2 Liam Levy 7157 Runs , Average 39.54 as Opener . Only 22 years old .
3 Raun Shkorer 14914 Runs ,Average 49.55 .114 50s . 22 Run outs
4 Tony Chung (W/K) 8216 Runs at Ave 33.13 of SR 94.96 , 236 Matches as keeper , 442 Dismissals at Ave of 1.46 at the age of 24.
5 Nathan Law 8426 runs at Average 30.20 on SR of 108.71 , Only 25 years old 250 6s
6 Tin Yau (C) 9535 runs at Average of 35.06 on a SR of 102.24 ,313 Games as Captain . 59 Run Outs .
7 Dennis Darling 4826 Runs at Ave 35.4 on SR of 107 ,350 Wickets at Ave 18.53 , 228 International runs at 45.6 ave
8 Hashim Zahid 5338 runs at Ave 23.9 on SR 88.6 , 299 Wickets at 26.4 Average .
9 Kieran Gooch 2779 Runs at 19.49 on SR 99.29 531 Wickets at 17.72
10 Luke Giddings 592 Wickets at Ave 19.87 . Including 26 International wickets
11 Ferdinand Selvage 553 Wickets at Ave of 18.30 including 18 International wickets .
This is a young community with majority of team being from one established team , the batting felt a little bit more thin on options however with bowlers there are 22 bowlers in this group with over 200 wickets at a average below 20 However went in the route of legendary players there again unfortunately dominated by one club . I didn't add clubs as I think this makes the reading a little less bias . And this list is going to be very different in 3 to 4 seasons with the talent floating about .
PS , i do get this is dominated by Z.O.R.A.X (Only one player not from there ) two sides however its open forum, please discuss . So I do realize this will be a much more enjoyable forum post for cnerd in particular however goes to my point earlier of the stat page etc .
1 Yamin Malik 12469 runs , Average of 34.9 as Opener .112 catches as fielder
2 Liam Levy 7157 Runs , Average 39.54 as Opener . Only 22 years old .
3 Raun Shkorer 14914 Runs ,Average 49.55 .114 50s . 22 Run outs
4 Tony Chung (W/K) 8216 Runs at Ave 33.13 of SR 94.96 , 236 Matches as keeper , 442 Dismissals at Ave of 1.46 at the age of 24.
5 Nathan Law 8426 runs at Average 30.20 on SR of 108.71 , Only 25 years old 250 6s
6 Tin Yau (C) 9535 runs at Average of 35.06 on a SR of 102.24 ,313 Games as Captain . 59 Run Outs .
7 Dennis Darling 4826 Runs at Ave 35.4 on SR of 107 ,350 Wickets at Ave 18.53 , 228 International runs at 45.6 ave
8 Hashim Zahid 5338 runs at Ave 23.9 on SR 88.6 , 299 Wickets at 26.4 Average .
9 Kieran Gooch 2779 Runs at 19.49 on SR 99.29 531 Wickets at 17.72
10 Luke Giddings 592 Wickets at Ave 19.87 . Including 26 International wickets
11 Ferdinand Selvage 553 Wickets at Ave of 18.30 including 18 International wickets .
This is a young community with majority of team being from one established team , the batting felt a little bit more thin on options however with bowlers there are 22 bowlers in this group with over 200 wickets at a average below 20 However went in the route of legendary players there again unfortunately dominated by one club . I didn't add clubs as I think this makes the reading a little less bias . And this list is going to be very different in 3 to 4 seasons with the talent floating about .
PS , i do get this is dominated by Z.O.R.A.X (Only one player not from there ) two sides however its open forum, please discuss . So I do realize this will be a much more enjoyable forum post for cnerd in particular however goes to my point earlier of the stat page etc .
StephenZA
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I think that's a fair assessment; from my own players (i.e personal bias) I think Davidson (from TMOs) would probably be much better in a more experienced team at 5/6. His erratic trait hurt him last season (33) but in season 32 his touch made him mvp for the TMOs. Both the poor experience around him (as the team rebuilds) and just bad luck has him underperforming a bit.... but still think he is gonna be great for the team long term.
Fair if you play him as a batsman only in OD as his t20 is hurting him , also he is a keeper with no playtime as a fielder with all his games being played as WK , and as a frontline keeper he is unfortunately lacking as well . Reserve keeper or rotational player is a very fair assessment for him IMO
He was very very close , and could easily slot in . At 22 he is someone that will replace someone in the middle order before the end of his career . The inconsistency will improve only thing that really hurts him is he is a pure specialist middle to late order bat with very low fielding .
Jarquis
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Respectfully disagree.
44 skill, 12 stam, 12 field, 13 keeping.
Averages 44.30 at a SR of 90
Dismissals per game is a relatively meaningless statistic but even if you want to use that as a metric he’s got 100 in 70 games @ 1.43 which is comparable with Chung
Even if you go all format he has a better average, SR and dismissals per game than Chung?!
He makes it as a batsman ahead of Law as well?
StephenZA
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Yeah both Davidson and Levys fielding is atrocious... but for the TMOs, beggars can't be choosers.
StephenZA
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Need to speak a bit about TNT's....
Just won their Div2 SOD game today against a team with a preview rating 11000 above them.
Go a bit lucky but you need to in the circumstance, however the makings of TNT as a potential great team are there.
PS: #BQ does not matter!!
Just won their Div2 SOD game today against a team with a preview rating 11000 above them.
Go a bit lucky but you need to in the circumstance, however the makings of TNT as a potential great team are there.
PS: #BQ does not matter!!
StephenZA
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
TNT lack a really good allrounder and possible a top class wk. Else I don't think there is much more you could ask for.
Just also to put the perspective of luck involved. Have 12 players in squad. 7 have been scouted. Which includes all the bowling and 2 of the batsmen Daley and Caldwell. van Zyl was in the opening squad and has been kept because he has 17 captaincy skill.
Speaking of scouting. Another 8 players have been sold for a total of ~ $250K+ in additional earnings. The scouting team has been pretty damn good!
Just also to put the perspective of luck involved. Have 12 players in squad. 7 have been scouted. Which includes all the bowling and 2 of the batsmen Daley and Caldwell. van Zyl was in the opening squad and has been kept because he has 17 captaincy skill.
Speaking of scouting. Another 8 players have been sold for a total of ~ $250K+ in additional earnings. The scouting team has been pretty damn good!
Interesting conversation however your comparing 70 OD matches against 147 which includes 10 Internationals . Also the comparison on quality opposition and what the stats represent is also important . Your comparing 442 keeping dismissals to 219 at a difference of 98 games as W/K . This is also very difficult to Compare a player that is only starting against a proven player .
Fielding and high keeper against top end team is definitely not meaningless . Something that isnt measured is missed opportunities and beyes that means a lot in more competitive matches so yea i do understand that my personnel preference . Chung is a no doubter for the player pool in question for a starting keeper .
Law again comparing double the matches at the same age . 4750 OD runs against 2215 at a better S/R , for a middle order S/R becomes important as averages get skewed due to N/O . Young as had 16 N/O in 66 matches . Law 11 in 138 . If you divide Youngs runs with excluding N/O his average drops to 33,5 and Law 34.4 and that just comparing OD . Experience and consistency matters for me . I get you disagree however i tried to explain my thinking a bit more and its fine if we do disagree . Young needs to have a incredible next 4 seasons to compare when you look at numbers , on paper he is better on skills however hasn't translated .
Jarquis
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Well it has translated, he’s got a better average and SR. It’s not really a criticism of Young that he keeps winning games for his team by not getting out.
Young also plays in a largely dreadful team and has minimal to no support. If you could pick one to add to your squad tomorrow I struggle to believe it wouldn’t be him.
Young also plays in a largely dreadful team and has minimal to no support. If you could pick one to add to your squad tomorrow I struggle to believe it wouldn’t be him.
Jarquis
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Young has 3943 @ 35.85 and a SR of 103.90 in competitive senior games for the PPs
The next best bat in the squad and second leading run scorer has 2413 @ 28.38 and a SR of 97.65
He’s so much better than everyone else in the squad it’s not funny. He wouldn’t do worse in a stronger side.
The next best bat in the squad and second leading run scorer has 2413 @ 28.38 and a SR of 97.65
He’s so much better than everyone else in the squad it’s not funny. He wouldn’t do worse in a stronger side.
Hey bud , sorry for late response was watching my game .
I am not saying he would do worse also with your question . I would like all three of them in my squad if i could choose . Young at 3 , Chung at 4 , Yau/Law at 5 and 6 . However Young should bat top 4 , I cannot drop my preferred keeper lower than 4 and Shkorer at 3 is unquestionable . The opener spots was more debatable then 3 to 6 to be honest in my mind .
Young is a little unproven and looking at player comparison would be a higher risk. Also regarding who i will choose , between the three Chung , a keeper like that is top top top end . Then it depends on age between Law and Young . Law between the ages of 16 to 19 . they are close between 20 and 23 however after 23 it would be young . The thing is most of Law career is behind him with young as late bloomer should start to be at his best from now till 31 . So if you ask me until now , my team remains the same. If you ask me to make a prediction of future best players young makes it . I predict him scoring around 6000 runs more until he is 30 at around 50s , if he can do that he challenges the entire top order .
