*Official * Pakistan vs New Zealand 2023

[TheBrand]

I don't see Allen/Young competing for the same spot tbh. I think it'll be more likely:

1. Conway
2. Allen
3. Young
4. Mitchell
5. Latham
6. Phillips
7. Bracewell
8. Santner
9. Henry
10. Ferguson
11. Boult

With Chapman, Sodhi, Southee and either Neesham/Guptill for the last spot.

 

[Prince EWS]

Neesham's batting has devolved to sub-Shaheen levels so on that basis alone Chairman should be preferred. Mitchell and Chapman can combine together to bowl the 2-4 overs required from the 6th bowler.

Phillips can bowl a bit too.

 

[ashley bach]

Watch how much we'll suck here in the finishing stages of the innings.

 

[trundler]

I don't see Allen/Young competing for the same spot tbh. I think it'll be more likely:

1. Conway
2. Allen
3. Young
4. Mitchell
5. Latham
6. Phillips
7. Bracewell
8. Santner
9. Henry
10. Ferguson
11. Boult

With Chapman, Sodhi, Southee and either Neesham/Guptill for the last spot.

A lot riding on Conway up top

 

[Prince EWS]

Watch how much we'll suck here in the finishing stages of the innings.

Sucks to suck.

 

[Prince EWS]

A lot riding on Conway up top

Yeah that top order is a real #weakness.

 

[straw man]

Realistically a full strength side is:
1.Allen/Young
2.Conway
3.Mitchell
4.Latham
5.Chapman?
6.Phillips
7.Bracewell
8.Santner
9.Southee
10.Henry
11.Boult/Sodhi

Right? you've got 4 solid front line options and bracewell, phillips, champan and mitchell to make up the remaining 10 and any other's you need filled in if one of the frontliners has a bad day.

I prefer this one over the side posted by The Brand, with only one of Allen/Young making the XI and Chapman present. Though I think Phillips at 5 with Chapman at 6.

Also bracket Southee, Ferguson and Sodhi as the final bowler. Boult clearly plays if he's present.

Ooh that was a big hit by M'knky.

 

[trundler]

Latham is a fantastic batsman and the eagerness to phase him out every time he fails because he's not 28 completely baffles me.

 

[trundler]

I'm worried there won't be enough runs for a Babar ton today.

 

[Nintendo]

I prefer this one over the side posted by The Brand, with only one of Allen/Young making the XI and Chapman present. Though I think Phillips at 5 with Chapman at 6.

Also bracket Southee, Ferguson and Sodhi as the final bowler. Boult clearly plays if he's present.

Ooh that was a big hit by M'knky.

I put Chapman at 5 cause he seems like a better player/hitter of spin then Phillips, but can get wanting to go the other direction.

 

[Athlai]

Lathams only been good in ODIs for about 2 years

 

[TheBrand]

I put Chapman at 5 cause he seems like a better player/hitter of spin then Phillips, but can get wanting to go the other direction.

You might get a test of Phillips against spin tonight as he's been selected for SRH on a spin heavy deck.

 

[Moss]

Latham is a fantastic batsman and the eagerness to phase him out every time he fails because he's not 28 completely baffles me.

No question of phasing him out, but barring the 2nd ODI he’s been as culpable as Young in not carrying on after getting a decent score.

 

[trundler]

Lathams only been good in ODIs for about 2 years

People go really overboard with "planning for the future" thing imo. Why wouldn't you make the best of what you have right now? As soon as someone hits 30, he's talked about like he's on borrowed time.

No question of phasing him out, but barring the 2nd ODI he’s been as culpable as Young in not carrying on after getting a decent score.

I'm fairly I read talk of moving past him in this thread. You're right about him not converting though.

 

[Moss]

NZ really don’t seem to rate Henry’s hitting abilities, can’t believe he’s listed below even Sodhi in a slog over situation.

 

[trundler]

Shaheen has been really good at the death for the most part.

 

[trundler]

75 in the last 10 for NZ. Just about ok. Looks very chaseable though. Shadab was really good in the field throughout the innings.

 

[Moss]

Good little knock from Ravindra. Could have a role to play in the 2nd half if the pitch helps.

The lower middle order is a much bigger concern for NZ than the top order IMO, they’re regularly ending up with 20-25 runs short of what they should after a decent platform.

 

[trundler]

Good little knock from Ravindra. Could have a role to play in the 2nd half if the pitch helps.

The lower middle order is a much bigger concern for NZ than the top order IMO, they’re regularly ending up with 20-25 runs short of what they should after a decent platform.

The top order is missing 1 player (Conway) and the lower order is missing 4. Also, opening is the best position to bat in Pakistan. Also KW being injured is a kick in the nuts, Babar's absence would massively nerf this Pakistan side too.

 

[Prince EWS]

Good little knock from Ravindra. Could have a role to play in the 2nd half if the pitch helps.

The lower middle order is a much bigger concern for NZ than the top order IMO, they’re regularly ending up with 20-25 runs short of what they should after a decent platform.

It is in this series because Phillips, Macewell and Santner are all out and have been replaced by subpar top order players out of position. I have more faith in those three than Young and Allen at full strength.