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Yeah, couldn't have any campervan-related shenanigans.Obviously we'd have to make sure the Scottish team's finances were heavily audited
Yeah, couldn't have any campervan-related shenanigans.Obviously we'd have to make sure the Scottish team's finances were heavily audited
That's always the argument maybe as there are plenty of examples of such in the NFL. But it is never likely to be the case in the ECB's franchise sides as they need a Test Match Ground to be based on.Yeah agree 100%.
You can't just create teams and then slap the name of a random town (because let's face it, "Manchester Originals" would be ditched and moved to Southend or somewhere if there was as little as a whiff of this being more profitable) on them and tell people they must care about them.
This isn't helped by the fact that the branding is so heavily linked to packets of crisps tbh. I can never remember which team is which. Whenever I've watched anyway I've just took the approach of "Ah it's Quavers against Skips" today, or whatever.
In fact come to think about it, if the teams were just representing packets of crisps rather than supposedly representing places, I think I would have cared about it more ironically.
Franchises wont have any creditability until they produce their own players. If they destroy county cricket they destroy the pool of players they are drafting from.Franchises are really hard to get fanbases rolling initially in established sporting landscapes, especially outside cities. You need a generation of kids to grow up watching them. They also vampire support for the already established sides. The counties are correct to hate the franchises.
They've already produced world class players like Bumrah and Rauf as well as serviceable franchise level players like Natarajan. I'm not sure if Warner counts but he was a T20 biffer he was ever a test player. Franchises definitely could develop their own talent hunting programs in the future. There may be a bias towards bowlers though. You can pick a bloke who bowls 90mph and hoops it off the street and teach him to bowl cutters and you have someone that's plenty good enough for league level.Franchises wont have any creditability until they produce their own players. If they destroy county cricket they destroy the pool of players they are drafting from.
The winning side gets to enter the stage to Horsemen's theme from old WCW.A county championship made up of four franchises imo. They could call it "The Four".
Why?Didn't mean franchise but just allow more overseas players.
County cricket is not better at producing England players than it was prior to 1968.Why not?
Raises the quality of the competition.
Stop ripping off us. That is just Lagaan.This would actually be great. Could offer the Scots independence if they won as something to motivate them.
There are 18 counties, still tons of opportunities for English players. We had this argument in football for years and now England produce loads of good players.County cricket is not better at producing England players than it was prior to 1968.
All it'd mean is potential top order batsmen, genuine quicks and spinners will find their paths blocked. Especially the latter two who have long been a victim of the difficulty of developing in the English conditions and selection culture.
It's been 55 years to observe that even though it may mean better players in the competition at any given moment, which should make the quality higher, it doesn't mean the end results in terms of England players are any better.
Well it's been 55 years in County cricket, maybe you can run down the equivalent period in football. And obtain a neutral non-UK judgement on the quality of English footballers over the year (I don't follow football so can't judge) - in any case you would need to show an association. The period of arguably the highest quality overseas players with the West Indian peak was a rather weak time for England, and I think cricket is more relevant than football.There are 18 counties, still tons of opportunities for English players. We had this argument in football for years and now England produce loads of good players.
...for other nations. I agree with Pothas. Glibalize or perishThere are 18 counties, still tons of opportunities for English players. We had this argument in football for years and now England produce loads of good players.
So you agree with someone provably wrong....for other nations. I agree with Pothas. Glibalize or perish
Sorry, what I meant and could have been more explicit was franchises in the UK. Those 8 which form part of the topic ...."the hundread could be scrapped".They've already produced world class players like Bumrah and Rauf as well as serviceable franchise level players like Natarajan. I'm not sure if Warner counts but he was a T20 biffer he was ever a test player. Franchises definitely could develop their own talent hunting programs in the future. There may be a bias towards bowlers though. You can pick a bloke who bowls 90mph and hoops it off the street and teach him to bowl cutters and you have someone that's plenty good enough for league level.
Did the period in the seventies when two overseas players were allowed in Championship matches lead to a clutch of high quality England players battle-hardened against the best? (No)I agree with Pothas. In football England have just had our best three tournament run since 66-70 and the Prem is filled with foreign talent.
I suppose the counter argument is the quality of player. Having top-class players in county cricket would allow ours young talent to test themselves against the best; they’d learn so much.
Sorry, I just used your post as a platform to pen some thoughts about a topic that was previously brought up in this thread.Sorry, what I meant and could have been more explicit was franchises in the UK. Those 8 which form part of the topic ...."the hundread could be scrapped".