Official - Road to Ashes 2023

[Starfighter]

Marnus is a religious, nerdy, string bean of a man. If he's bullying you into any umpiring decision on the field you need to get yourself checked out.

Not what I meant

 

[Brook's side]

Despite what you initially thought, this was clearly a shocking decision.

However, I think it is ridiculous to suggest that appealing was in any way unsportsmanlike or bullying. Being so wide on the crease, the ball would, from the bowler's perception, have appeared to pitch in line.

It wasn't my initial thought that it wasn't a shocking decision. It was my initial thought that it was not clear that it was a wrong decision. It is my reflected thought that it was probably a wrong decision but that it is not a shocking decision.

On the 'unsportsmanlike' appeal, it should be pretty clear that I'm not calling the player a bully for appealing for an lbw where in fact the ball probably pitched a couple of inches outside leg stump. That's not the point at all.

 

[Brook's side]

Marnus is a religious, nerdy, string bean of a man. If he's bullying you into any umpiring decision on the field you need to get yourself checked out.

So your defence of Labushagne is that the umpire could beat him up in a 1 on 1?

 

[Brook's side]

This Indian player (who was also 'a string bean of a man') was banned for similar appealing:

 

[Nintendo]

So your defence of Labushagne is that the umpire could beat him up in a 1 on 1?

Not a fair fight for marnus. Umpires can just call blue eyes white Dragon and send him to the shadow realm.

 

[Starfighter]

@Nintendo my point was that the whinging from certain posters is because because Labuschagne is Australian. If, say, Anderson got a similar decision you wouldn't hear a peep.

 

[Brook's side]

@Nintendo my point was that the whinging from certain posters is because because Labuschagne is Australian. If, say, Anderson got a similar decision you wouldn't hear a peep.

As a general rule, you'll find that it helps if you read the posts before you comment on them.

It's nothing to do with the fact that he appealed. It was a close call and he was perfectly entitled to appeal.

 

[Nintendo]

As a general rule, you'll find that it helps if you read the posts before you comment on them.

It's nothing to do with the fact that he appealed. It was a close call and he was perfectly entitled to appeal.

I bet you wouldn't ask Joe root to fight seito kaiba if he was in marnus's situation.....

 

[Brook's side]

This one was pretty bad where he runs off in celebration without appealing for one that is much more clearly not out than the recent one discussed on this thread:

Watch: Marnus Labuschagne Launches Massive, Unsuccessful Celebrappeal In Sheffield Shield, Gets Trolled By Warner And Paine (wisden.com)

But it doesn't have the intimidatory factor of the recent appeal, which to me clearly oversteps the mark of sportsmanlike conduct.

 

[Starfighter]

As a general rule, you'll find that it helps if you read the posts before you comment on them.

It's nothing to do with the fact that he appealed. It was a close call and he was perfectly entitled to appeal.

And then your subsequent posting shows that I nailed it perfectly.

 

[Brook's side]

The video's been taken down now anyway

There is a still of part of the appeal here though:

This must be the first appeal, which looks bad enough.

For the 2nd wicket he got pretty much right in the umpire's face whilst screaming.

If you do open the video by the way, I strongly suggest turning the sound off or pressing pause.

 

[Burgey]

This one was pretty bad where he runs off in celebration without appealing for one that is much more clearly not out

This action is known as “doing the Stuart Broad.”

 

[Burgey]

So your defence of Labushagne is that the umpire could beat him up in a 1 on 1?

Umpires shouldn’t be bullied into any decisions. If they are then they’re umpiring above their station.

Also, it was one of the 8,248 wickets taken that day (or on any given day) of County cricket. Why is it being obsessed over like this?

 

[Prince EWS]

This Indian player (who was also 'a string bean of a man') was banned for similar appealing:

That second one was plumb tbh.

 

[Brook's side]

Umpires shouldn’t be bullied into any decisions. If they are then they’re umpiring above their station.

Also, it was one of the 8,248 wickets taken that day (or on any given day) of County cricket. Why is it being obsessed over like this?

OK, but my concern isn't with the umpire.

There must be a line where player conduct becomes unacceptable.

I can't believe that a cricketer should be at liberty to intimidate the umpire without limits, if at all.

 

[Molehill]

Umpires shouldn’t be bullied into any decisions. If they are then they’re umpiring above their station.

Also, it was one of the 8,248 wickets taken that day (or on any given day) of County cricket. Why is it being obsessed over like this?

There's been some very disgruntled batsmen walking off at Hove too after some questionable lbw decisions. I think with a spinner, especially one bowling leg spin from around the wicket to a right hander, it becomes painfully obvious when the umpire has had a howler, as he did on this occasion. Literally, nothing personal against Marnus at all, the person with questions against them is the umpire.

 

[Brook's side]

I think with a spinner, especially one bowling leg spin from around the wicket to a right hander, it becomes painfully obvious when the umpire has had a howler, as he did on this occasion.

Not every ball a leg spinner bowls, is a leg spinner.

The suggestion that it's "painfully obvious" that an umpire has had a "howler" if he gives a right handed batsman out lbw to a leg spin bowler bowling right arm around, is just invalid.

You said that the Labushagne ball pitched "a foot" outside leg stump, and it was nowhere anywhere near that. It was probably a couple of inches.

 

[Prince EWS]

Marnus wasn't even actually bowling leggies at the time.

 

[GIMH]

Very first bit is incorrect as molehill straight up said "there is no fitness issue".

Fair enough on the rest of your post though, If anything I was trying to make a point that I wasn't very confident in what I was saying.

Surely it’s only incorrect if he said ‘was no fitness issue’

 

[Molehill]

You said that the Labushagne ball pitched "a foot" outside leg stump, and it was nowhere anywhere near that. It was probably a couple of inches.

Have you paused the video at the point it pitches, it is miles outside leg stump. DRS would've taken 2 seconds to send it packing...