*Unofficial* New Zealand Black Caps Thread

[Zinzan]

Chris Drum retired early for career/personal reasons but I do not believe it was to join the police force. Not sure where people are getting that from.

 

[Moss]

I used to wonder why Adams only ever got that one test, despite going on an absolute tear in FC stuff.

In the Fleming/Aberhart era he was injured a lot and there were a fair few SC tours which he wasn't factored in for. Post that (when he was particularly good in FC), Bracewell wasn't a fan. That apart, stereotyped as a whiteball bowler.

 

[NZTailender]

Chris Drum retired early for career/personal reasons but I do not believe it was to join the police force. Not sure where people are getting that from.

Wherever the police thing came from idk, but am grateful as it was a good opener for a bad joke and easy likes

 

[SteveNZ]

Chris Drum retired early for career/personal reasons but I do not believe it was to join the police force. Not sure where people are getting that from.

That's a swing and a miss from me, apologies. I could have sworn that was true...but now that I've googled it, I could have (F knows how) got it confused with this guy:

https://nz.linkedin.com/in/christopher-drumm-b3a25572

 

[SteveNZ]

In the Fleming/Aberhart era he was injured a lot and there were a fair few SC tours which he wasn't factored in for. Post that (when he was particularly good in FC), Bracewell wasn't a fan. That apart, stereotyped as a whiteball bowler.

Interesting, given the ODI games he played were under Bracewell. But yeah, he could be a hothead - suspended for grabbing Bevan Griggs' grill when he dismissed him, pushed another guy in club cricket, super aggressive. But a hell of a bowler, and a very intelligent one too which is why he's gone on to work with NSW and guys like Cummins/Starc/Hazelwood etc rate him so highly.

 

[Immenso]

Still 2 left ....

	Player	Province	Matches	Wickets	Average	Span
1​	RW Blair	Wellington / Central Districts	59​	352​	14.73​	1951/52 - 1964/65
2​	RJ Hadlee	Canterbury	58​	270​	15.69​	1971/72 - 1988/89
3​	CJ Drum	Auckland	30​	120​	17.92​	1996/97 - 2001/02
4​	EJ Chatfield	Wellington	79​	370​	19.06​	1973/74 - 1989/90
5​	RC Motz	Canterbury	65​	226​	19.23​	1957/58 - 1968/69
6​	???	Wellington / CD / ND	64​	247​	19.30​	1963/64 - 1977/78
7​	DR Hadlee	Canterbury	38​	190​	19.75​	1969/70 - 1983/84
8​	SL Boock	Otago / Canterbury	101​	492​	19.82​	1973/74 - 1989/90
9​	AR Tait	Northern Districts	25​	110​	19.83​	1994/95 - 2000/01
10​	???	Otago	65​	248​	19.86​	1952/53 - 1966/67

 

[Binkley]

Is the Otago player Frank Cameron?

 

[Binkley]

And based solely on the fact that his career finished in 1978, I am going to guess the other bowler is Richard Collinge. I am pretty sure his last first-class match was the famous test victory over England in 1977/78.

 

[Immenso]

Correct ^^ for Both Collinge and Cameron.

(although Cameron went on 1978 England tour, I think? re: " I am pretty sure his last first-class match was the famous test victory over England in 1977/78." )

 

[Binkley]

Correct ^^ for Both Collinge and Cameron.

(although Cameron went on 1978 England tour, I think? re: " I am pretty sure his last first-class match was the famous test victory over England in 1977/78." )

Did you mean Collinge? Maybe. It was before my time, but I seem to recall Collinge’s performance in the 1977/78 test described somewhere as the final act of his career. Probably in Christopher Martin-Jenkins Who’s Who of Test Cricket because I pretty much had the NZ section of that memorised when I was a kid.

 

[Immenso]

I missed someone in the bowling list.
212 wickets at 19.22.

Any guesses?

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Warren Wisneski

 

[_Ed_]

What's the time period for this one?

 

[Flem274*]

I missed someone in the bowling list.
212 wickets at 19.22.

Any guesses?

I feel like I've seen those numbers when doing PS comparisons to our test bowlers.

KJ?

 

[Prince EWS]

I feel like I've seen those numbers when doing PS comparisons to our test bowlers.

KJ?

Nah he'd be lucky to have half those PS wickets. Average might be about right though.

 

[Binkley]

If it’s a current player, I reckon it could be Wags.

 

[vandem]

Brian Yuile?

Needs to be a post WW2 player to get 200+ wickets, other spinners Burtt or Moir or Hedley Howarth or John Bracewell look to have 20-22 PS averages, not Snedden or Andre Adams or de Groen who were the low average seamers I thought of.

 

[Immenso]

If it’s a current player, I reckon it could be Wags.

Wags averages 26ish

 

[Immenso]

Brian Yuile?

Needs to be a post WW2 player to get 200+ wickets, other spinners Burtt or Moir or Hedley Howarth or John Bracewell look to have 20-22 PS averages, not Snedden or Andre Adams or de Groen who were the low average seamers I thought of.

No, wasn't Yuile. But he would make this list, hadn't known he had such a good record.

 

[Immenso]

Not a spinner.