Yeah that always did seem the weakest part of the whole ensemble "case" to me.I thought Vaughan would be cleared. Not because he necessarily didn’t do it, but the arguments from his lawyers seemed to at least plant enough doubt for them to not say it was conclusive, to my non-expert mind.
I guess it depends what the burden of proof was set at. If it was "beyond a reasonable doubt" the decision was fair enough, however if it was on the balance of probabilities to my (also inexpert) way of thinking Mick has maybe been a slightly lucky boy.I thought Vaughan would be cleared. Not because he necessarily didn’t do it, but the arguments from his lawyers seemed to at least plant enough doubt for them to not say it was conclusive, to my non-expert mind.
Agreed, at least Hoggard and Vaughan have gone out of their way to speak to Rafiq and try to put things right. The others not so.Yeah that always did seem the weakest part of the whole ensemble "case" to me.
Needless to say my view of Bresnan as a person has cratered during this entire process. Not just because of the accusations themselves, if anything because of his conduct in the last 18 months as a result of them.
It will be interesting to see if the BBC are willing to employ him again...I guess it depends what the burden of proof was set at. If it was "beyond a reasonable doubt" the decision was fair enough, however if it was on the balance of probabilities to my (also inexpert) way of thinking Mick has maybe been a slightly lucky boy.
It was the balance of probabilities.I guess it depends what the burden of proof was set at. If it was "beyond a reasonable doubt" the decision was fair enough, however if it was on the balance of probabilities to my (also inexpert) way of thinking Mick has maybe been a slightly lucky boy.
He'll get work in Oz anyway, won't he?Agreed, at least Hoggard and Vaughan have gone out of their way to speak to Rafiq and try to put things right. The others not so.
I seem to remember Swann always posting videos on twitter basically suggesting there wasn't a lot going on up top with regards to Bresnan.
It will be interesting to see if the BBC are willing to employ him again...
Probably less likely now he’s been found not guiltyHe'll get work in Oz anyway, won't he?
sky news just quietly retracting his job offer now he’s found to have not been a bigotProbably less likely now he’s been found not guilty
*not proven to have beensky news just quietly retracting his job offer now he’s found to have not been a bigot
realistically of all people here i shouldn't be flubbing that but you're right lol*not proven to have been
Okay but how do you explain the rest of your posting?realistically of all people here i shouldn't be flubbing that but you're right lol
in defense of me ever since i started full time work i get tired at like half past nine
Okay but how do you explain the rest of your posting?
general rule that everyone should tell me to stfu all of the time tbf
‘Of all people here’ in a thread that zaremba has posted in…realistically of all people here i shouldn't be flubbing that but you're right lol
in defense of me ever since i started full time work i get tired at like half past nine
You should apologize for posting his tweets here, even in summary.The comments on Vaughan's apology tweet thread ?
Rafiq did all for money, to pay off his gambling debts etc..
Edit: not an apology tweet, just the statement he tweeted regarding the trial and decision
lol come on man there's a million lawyers who post here and they've all been doing it a lot longer and better than i have, obvious what i meant ?‘Of all people here’ in a thread that zaremba has posted in…
Wrong. What sort of mathematician are you?51% not proven + 49% guilty = 74% guilty, right guys?