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*Official* Sri Lanka in New Zealand 2022/23

thierry henry

thierry henry

International Coach
straw man said:
Amazing how quickly CW attitude on Henry has gone from 'nah you don't add much, you average over 40 and we can do a lot better' to 'for the love of god don't get injured, you're one of our only two fit and competent seamers'.
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yeah I was always a critic (in a "his stats basically reflect his performance and you can't demand the selection of a guy like that" way) and I still think he is kinda limited tbh. Still struggle to see him as an effective bowler if the pitch is flat or slow or basically in scenarios where a change of tactics is needed. Nevertheless he has definitely improved his test match bowling when prevented with reasonably favourable conditions, which in itself is probably more than I had expected.
 
The Hutt Rec

The Hutt Rec

International Vice-Captain
straw man said:
Amazing how quickly CW attitude on Henry has gone from 'nah you don't add much, you average over 40 and we can do a lot better' to 'for the love of god don't get injured, you're one of our only two fit and competent seamers'.
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He always just needed a chance to use the new ball. Impossible while Boult and Southee were both there, but now Boult’s gone he’s a shoe in for that role.
 
Nintendo

Nintendo

Cricketer Of The Year
thierry henry said:
yeah I was always a critic (in a "his stats basically reflect his performance and you can't demand the selection of a guy like that" way) and I still think he is kinda limited tbh. Still struggle to see him as an effective bowler if the pitch is flat or slow or basically in scenarios where a change of tactics is needed. Nevertheless he has definitely improved his test match bowling when prevented with reasonably favourable conditions, which in itself is probably more than I had expected.
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He's averaged 28 on some absolutely dead Pak decks, flat England pitches with a ball that's worth zilch after the 10th over and some flat/some friendly home decks. Not like his sudden transformation has coincided with the gift of greentops, he's just become a much better bowler at test level.
 
thierry henry

thierry henry

International Coach
Nintendo said:
He's averaged 28 on some absolutely dead Pak decks, flat England pitches with a ball that's worth zilch after the 10th over and some flat/some friendly home decks. Not like his sudden transformation has coincided with the gift of greentops, he's just become a much better bowler at test level.
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Eh....wouldn't say at all that the recent decks in England/NZ have been "flat". His output in Pakistan is 2 wickets for 127.

But him improving was my point anyway. Doesn't mean he's a canny subcontinent bowler all of a sudden.
 
thierry henry

thierry henry

International Coach
Henry has taken 8 wickets @39 in England during the relevant time anyway, so it's basically in NZ where he's been good. 1 MOTM performance against the horrible 2021 England and 1 bad performance against BazBall.
 
Nintendo

Nintendo

Cricketer Of The Year
thierry henry said:
Henry has taken 8 wickets @39 in England during the relevant time anyway, so it's basically in NZ where he's been good. 1 MOTM performance against the horrible 2021 England and 1 bad performance against BazBall.
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All fair tbh, my bad for not looking more in depth at his series by series performance.
 
F

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
thierry henry said:
Eh....wouldn't say at all that the recent decks in England/NZ have been "flat". His output in Pakistan is 2 wickets for 127.

But him improving was my point anyway. Doesn't mean he's a canny subcontinent bowler all of a sudden.
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Ideally our attack in Bangladesh will be Southee and a fit Jamieson

with either

Sodhi and Pringle
OR
Santner and Ashtok
as the 2 main spinners

backed up by Ravindra, Phillips, and Mitchell
 
ataraxia

ataraxia

International Coach
****, I was just about to post that I genuinely think Conners Conway has underachieved in tests so far, the ubergun that he is. But of course, he was undone by that pervasive weakness: part-time finger-spin. He'd get himself out a lot tbh
 
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