*Official* Australia in India 2023

[Burgey]

Now I'm not saying sunilz has a point, but devil's advocate, wasn't Khawaja's brother prosecuted (or at least being looked into) for a terrorism-adjacent crime?

It might not be totally irrelevant to border security

He created a fake terrorist plot to frame a work colleague who I think he was at odds with over a woman.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Now I'm not saying sunilz has a point, but devil's advocate, wasn't Khawaja's brother prosecuted (or at least being looked into) for a terrorism-adjacent crime?

It might not be totally irrelevant to border security

Wasn't that thing him framing some other guy about wanting to do a terrorism?

 

[TheJediBrah]

So you are justifying the racism displayed by Australian security staff against Indian citizens . Very disappointed from you .

Aren't you justifying the racism displayed by Indian security staff against Australian citizens (Khawaja), like literally right now lol

 

[Burgey]

So you are justifying the racism displayed by Australian security staff against Indian citizens . Very disappointed from you .

No I'm saying he's a **** journo. What they did to him is never acceptable.

But what has that got to do with the Delta virus and Khawaja getting a visa?

 

[TheJediBrah]

He created a fake terrorist plot to frame a work colleague who I think he was at odds with over a woman.

Wasn't that thing him framing some other guy about wanting to do a terrorism?

Yeah hence "terrorism-adjacent"

It's a stretch but I would think terrorism isn't something you mess around with so it would at the very least give them an excuse to make it tough for him to get a visa

 

[TheJediBrah]

Personally I can’t wait for visas to be denied for all cricketers, resulting in a famous 2023 WC win for India.

So you would deny Tim David a chance to shine in a World Cup, shame

 

[Sunil1z]

Khwaja also visited Pakistan last year ( obviously for cricket) . This further complicated his visa issue . There is a strict instruction given to all visa issuing officers to take caution in giving visa to people who have visited Pakistan previously.

So for Khwaja the barriers regarding getting visa was
1. Him being a Pakistani origin citizen
2. Him visiting Pakistan last year


Now to the neutrals here , this may be discriminatory. But I as Indian citizen support these rules if it prevents terrorist attack like Mumbai . You can call me racist or whatever . It doesn’t bother me .

This is last from me on this topic . I won’t discuss politics in cricket thread any further.

 

[Daemon]

Usman Khawaja is a cricketer of Pakistani descent who was born in Pakistan but moved to Australia at a young age. In 2019, Khawaja, who was then the captain of Queensland Bulls in the Sheffield Shield, was set to play for Queensland in a match in India. However, he was denied a visa by the Indian government.

According to reports, the Indian government cited "diplomatic tensions" between India and Pakistan as the reason for denying Khawaja's visa. It is not uncommon for governments to deny visas to individuals for various reasons, including political tensions, security concerns, and other reasons.

Whether it was right or wrong for India to deny Khawaja's visa is a matter of opinion, and opinions may vary depending on various factors, including one's understanding of the reasons behind the decision. However, it is important to note that governments have the right to make decisions on visa applications based on their own policies and considerations.

 

[Burgey]

So you would deny Tim David a chance to shine in a World Cup, shame

That's something even less likely than Usman Khawaja packing some Semtex for the flight to Delhi

 

[Sunil1z]

Aren't you justifying the racism displayed by Indian security staff against Australian citizens (Khawaja), like literally right now lol

Yes, I support it . It may sound racist to you . But India faces terrorism from Pakistan not Australia.

Once we start making exceptions for Khwaja , there are many good Pakistani citizen who would want preferential treatment like Khwaja . And this would make the entire rule redundant because ultimately it takes 1 bad person to spoil the good work of others .

 

[TheJediBrah]

Now to the neutrals here , this may be discriminatory. But I as Indian citizen support these rules if it prevents terrorist attack like Mumbai . You can call me racist or whatever . It doesn’t bother me .

You can't say this, and then also complain about racism or discrimination from any other country or people. Blatantly hypocritical.

Yes, I support it . It may sound racist to you . But India faces terrorism from Pakistan not Australia.

Once we start making exceptions for Khwaja , there are many good Pakistani citizen who would want preferential treatment like Khwaja . And this would make the entire rule redundant because ultimately it takes 1 bad person to spoil the good work of others .

You realise this exact same logic could say "It's ok for America to be racist and discriminate against people of middle-eastern descent because they are trying to prevent attacks like 9-11"

 

[Burgey]

But India faces terrorism from Pakistan not Australia.

Faces plenty from Indians too doesn't it?

 

[Sunil1z]

You can't say this, and then also complain about racism or discrimination from any other country or people. Blatantly hypocritical.

No, 2 things aren’t same . Does Australia face terrorism threat from India ? Yes or No

Have Indian citizens in past carried out terrorist attack against Australia? Yes or No

You could call this discriminatory if Indian visa officers would have delayed visa to Symonds or Gillespie

 

[Sunil1z]

Faces plenty from Indians too doesn't it?

Won’t discuss politics further in this thread.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Usman Khawaja is a cricketer of Pakistani descent who was born in Pakistan but moved to Australia at a young age. In 2019, Khawaja, who was then the captain of Queensland Bulls in the Sheffield Shield, was set to play for Queensland in a match in India. However, he was denied a visa by the Indian government.

According to reports, the Indian government cited "diplomatic tensions" between India and Pakistan as the reason for denying Khawaja's visa. It is not uncommon for governments to deny visas to individuals for various reasons, including political tensions, security concerns, and other reasons.

Whether it was right or wrong for India to deny Khawaja's visa is a matter of opinion, and opinions may vary depending on various factors, including one's understanding of the reasons behind the decision. However, it is important to note that governments have the right to make decisions on visa applications based on their own policies and considerations.

lol I actually checked to see if there was a Queensland tour of India in 2019.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Reading these last few posts turned my brain into a slushie

 

[Spark]

Yeah if we could take this whole discussion to N+P if you want to continue it then that would be swell.

 

[TheJediBrah]

No, 2 things aren’t same . Does Australia face terrorism threat from India ? Yes or No

Have Indian citizens in past carried out terrorist attack against Australia? Yes or No

You could call this discriminatory if Indian visa officers would have delayed visa to Symonds or Gillespie

So it's ok to discriminate against anyone from a race of whom a member has carried out a terrorist attack in your country, I see

 

[Prince EWS]

No I'm saying he's a **** journo. What they did to him is never acceptable.

But what has that got to do with the Delta virus and Khawaja getting a visa?

Throw enough irrelevant stuff at the wall and something might stick.

 

[Burgey]

Throw enough irrelevant stuff at the wall and something might stick.

just not in this case