ashley bach
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True but Marcus Harris could captain and dominate at home. That series win in Pakistan and draw in SL are no big deal tbh.
Nothing against Paddy but just reckon Smith the better man for the job.
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*Official* Australia in India 2023
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Nothing against Paddy but just reckon Smith the better man for the job.
Nintendo
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We got whitewashed in 2017 last time we toured?
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Yeah but I think he might mean overall we haven’t stunk it up there over the years/ decades.
Which you’d hope would be the case because they’ve mostly been pretty ordinary over the years/ decades
ParwazHaiJunoon
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It's difficult to score those daddy hundreds if he bats at 5 in International Cricket.
OverratedSanity
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India actually sucked in SL historically more than Australia did.
Spark
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Looking at the scoreboard it mostly looks like a horrible road tbh. 400dec plays 400dec with multiple retired outs.
I'm with Burgey re: the wickets - I thought the first two wickets were both excellent, if on the bowler-friendly side of the ledger, Test wickets and that they should have gone well into Day 4 with more competent batting. This one is the first one where I've gone "yeah okay this is a bit much" but honestly even then I still thought we got differentiation between skilful bowling vs average bowling and skilful batting vs average batting.
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CricAddict
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http://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-news/125760/indore-pitch-rated-poor-handed-three-demerit-pointsIndore pitch rated poor, handed three demerit points
Spark
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That was quick
CricAddict
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Every Australia or England series in India has such a pitch where India goes overboard with the spin to win strategy and loses control.
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If India lose the last test and lose a few more points for pitches or slow overrate, is there a possibility SL could sneak in without having to even win in nz? ? That would be hilarious.
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If Smith were ever to return full time to the captaincy I think it could only ever be on the condition he stopped playing every other format, because last time he was playing all three and his brain basically short circuited by the end of his tenure.
Series wins or draws anywhere in the SC are a bit of a big deal for Aus at any time. We hadn’t toured Pakistan for decades and like Nintendo said, we got dicked in SL in 2017.
Captaincy long term is just hard work at most levels, but exponentially so at the top as you start touring in different conditions. Those wins last year were an important part of the body of work this team is trying to put together. If they jagged 2-2 here it would be another level again.
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Spark
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I definitely agree, but at the same time I do think this narrative risks being a little unfair to Australia. They genuinely played some excellent cricket over the last three days in some seriously challenging conditions. Had they displayed that standard consistently from the beginning, Australia would likely be looking at a series win here.
Spark
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Unfortunately, or fortunately from another standpoint, his transformation into a six hitting machine in the BBL has kind of made that moot.
ashley bach
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Or he just captains in tests. Think he still has plenty to offer in both white ball formats, particularly when you take note of his recent big bash form.
Still not reasonable to play on. Come on.
Shri
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rohit probably rated it himself
honestbharani
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That was one ball and he was lunging when it hit him, Ash actually asked if he can chk for LBW. Whatever I saw today, I dont think it was that inconsistent. But I did not see yesterday, so happy to take your word for it. Once again though, it was not physically dangerous which is usually the biggest issue when someone says "inconsistent" bounce.
I never said this was a good pitch. I just dont think it was a pitch where any side would be bowled out for 109 on day 1.
Nah, if it is not physically dangerous, I think any pitch should be ok to play on.
Its Chris Broad. He is known to jump the gun against SC nations pretty much always. Fully expect this to be overturned like they did Pindi, esp. coz they have the fact that they were asked host at the last minute.
Anyways, I really dont think my own rating of this pitch would be that far away from poor. My point is just that even given the pitch, our batting and bowling on the first day was pretty horrendous.
honestbharani
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Smith is a bit of a galaxy brain and him being a long term captain again cannot be the best thing for Aus. IT really should be the absolute last option.
Spark
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It's the biggest issue, but far from the only one. Even if it's not dangerous it's very close to unplayable if you get it going up and down in such exaggerated fashions, you're basically just skating on luck the whole time. Obviously there was still skill differentiation in this game but it did feel like there were times where luck was the main factor in whether batsmen made a decent score or not.
I do agree with this though. India batted really quite badly to be seven down by lunch; I think Australia's innings was a much fairer reflection of the pitch. I think I commented at one point that it wasn't the unplayable balls getting wickets, it was filthy half trackers that they somehow contrived to get out to.