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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

Coronis

International Coach
New Ball will be given to Imran and Wasim, 3rd bowler will be Waqar followed by Off spin-Leg spin combo of Mushtaq's its a deadly Bowling lineup
Nobody said its not deadly. I said there are equal or better attacks out there and better batting lineups.

e.g
McGrath/Davison/Lillee/Warne/Miller
Marshall/Ambrose/Garner/Holding/Sobers
Steyn/Donald/Pollock/Tayfield/Kallis
 

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
Nobody said its not deadly. I said there are equal or better attacks out there and better batting lineups.

e.g
McGrath/Davison/Lillee/Warne/Miller
Marshall/Ambrose/Garner/Holding/Sobers
Steyn/Donald/Pollock/Tayfield/Kallis
Show me the full all time xi of these teams so i can also get to know the strength of their batting.
 

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
South Africa vs Pakistan Bowling
1) Steyn vs Wasim
2) Donald vs Waqar
3) Pollock vs Imran
4) Tayfield vs Saqlain
5) Kallis vs Mushtaq

Clearly Pakistan Bowling looks Superior
 

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
West Indies vs Pakistan Bowling
1) Marshall vs Wasim
2) Ambrose vs Waqar
3) Holding vs Imran
4) Garner vs Saqlain
5) Sobers vs Mushtaq

West Indies = Pakistan as WI has better pace bowlers and Pak has better Spinners
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
West Indies vs Pakistan Bowling
1) Marshall vs Wasim
2) Ambrose vs Waqar
3) Holding vs Imran
4) Garner vs Saqlain
5) Sobers vs Mushtaq

West Indies = Pakistan as WI has better pace bowlers and Pak has better Spinners
West Indies vs Bangladesh Bowling
1) Marshall vs Mashrafe
2) Ambrose vs Ebadot
3) Holding vs Rafique
4) Garner vs Mehidy
5) Sobers vs Shakib

West Indies = Bangladesh as WI has better pace bowlers and Bangladesh has better Spinners
 

Howe_zat

Audio File
West Indies vs Bangladesh Bowling
1) Marshall vs Mashrafe
2) Ambrose vs Ebadot
3) Holding vs Rafique
4) Garner vs Mehidy
5) Sobers vs Shakib

West Indies = Bangladesh as WI has better pace bowlers and Bangladesh has better Spinners
I think Mustafizur and Taijul Islam make the all-time Bangladesh attack.
 

Coronis

International Coach
Show me the full all time xi of these teams so i can also get to know the strength of their batting.
You literally just asked “show me bowling” but whatever.

Australia
Hayden
Simpson
Bradman*
Smith
Chappell
Miller
Gilchrist+
Davidson
Warne
Lillee
McGrath

(Another day I might drop Miller for Border)

West Indies
Greenidge
Hunte
Headley
Lara
Richards*
Sobers
Walcott+
Marshall
Garner
Holding
Ambrose

(Gibbs can come in for Holding if needed on a turner)

South Africa
Mitchell
Smith*
Amla
Pollock
Kallis
Nourse
de Villiers+
Pollock
Tayfield
Steyn
Donald

(no Richards or Procter so that couldn’t be used against me)
 

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
You literally just asked “show me bowling” but whatever.

Australia
Hayden
Simpson
Bradman*
Smith
Chappell
Miller
Gilchrist+
Davidson
Warne
Lillee
McGrath

(Another day I might drop Miller for Border)

West Indies
Greenidge
Hunte
Headley
Lara
Richards*
Sobers
Walcott+
Marshall
Garner
Holding
Ambrose

(Gibbs can come in for Holding if needed on a turner)

South Africa
Mitchell
Smith*
Amla
Pollock
Kallis
Nourse
de Villiers+
Pollock
Tayfield
Steyn
Donald

(no Richards or Procter so that couldn’t be used against me)
What i find interesting is the inclusion of Alan Davidson and Keith Miller.
 

Coronis

International Coach
What i find interesting is the inclusion of Alan Davidson and Keith Miller.
Miller is included in Aussie XIs because of the flexibility he creates, allowing us an extra bowler, considering the big advantage we have with Bradman/Gilly. Davidson is Australia’s 2nd best pace bowler for me, and for others on here, plus he gives left arm variation.
 

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
Australia vs Pakistan Bowling
1) McGrath vs Wasim
2) Lillee vs Imran
3) Davidson vs Waqar
4) Warne vs Mushtaq
5) Miller vs Saqlain

Australia looks clearly Superior in this scenario.
 

Victor Ian

International Coach
South Africa vs Pakistan Bowling
1) Steyn vs Wasim
Steyn better bowling avg, sr, wpm.

2) Donald vs Waqar
Donald better bowling avg, wpm

3) Pollock vs Imran
Imran trifecta (but all marginally)

4) Tayfield vs Saqlain
Tayfield better AVG, wpm

5) Kallis vs Mushtaq
Better avg

Wtf man. Sa beats your dudes across the board except for Imran and that is barely marginal. I couldn't even be ****ed calculating how many extra runs your bowling team forfeits come the batting. Pakistan is ****ed, and that is comparing against the 3rd best ATG team.

Clearly you've been smoking the good stuff.
 

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
South Africa vs Pakistan Bowling
1) Steyn vs Wasim
Steyn better bowling avg, sr, wpm.

2) Donald vs Waqar
Donald better bowling avg, wpm

3) Pollock vs Imran
Imran trifecta (but all marginally)

4) Tayfield vs Saqlain
Tayfield better AVG, wpm

5) Kallis vs Mushtaq
Better avg

Wtf man. Sa beats your dudes across the board except for Imran and that is barely marginal. I couldn't even be ****ed calculating how many extra runs your bowling team forfeits come the batting. Pakistan is ****ed, and that is comparing against the 3rd best ATG team.

Clearly you've been smoking the good stuff.
You should not look simply at an Avg and come to a conclusion.
Tayfield was an offspinner but Saqlain was an Offspinner who can bowl Doosra
Mushtaq clearly better than Kallis (at one point of time he was compared to Warne and Kallis never was)
Steyn, Donald, Pollock vs Wasim, Waqar and Imran is clash of the titans
Its a pretty even contest which can go either way based on pitch conditions.
 

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
Pakistan has 2 different Spinners so it is also challenging for Batsmen to play off spin one over and leg spin another over. 3 World Class Fast Bowlers with one being a Left Arm Bowler.

Imran, Wasim and Waqar can also preserve their energy for 2nd Innings very well as there is not much work load on them due to 2 Specialist Spinners.
 

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