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The ATG Teams General arguing/discussing thread

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
Australia and West Indies have comfortably better ATG XIs than that. England, South Africa and India more debatable but those first two are pretty clearly non-negotiable.

When you said "can beat" originally I just thought you meant they wouldn't always lose every game. If you think that's the best national ATG XI you're absolutely nuts.
Pakistan Team is Very Strong can beat any of the Teams you have mentioned
1) 2 Great Openers - Anwar and Hanif
2) No 3 - Younis Khan - Pakistan's modern batting great with more than 10,000 Runs
3) Middle Order - Inzamam and Miandad - Powerful Middle Order
4) Wicket Keeper - Sarfaraz - best wicket keeper batsmen for Pakistan
5) All Rounders - Imran and Wasim - Imran a Great Captain
6) Off Spinner - Saqlain Mushtaq (can also bowl doosra)
7) Leg Spinner - Mushtaq Ahmed (Googlies)
8) Fast Bowler - Waqar
This Team can beat any Team as they have Strong Spin Department and Fast Bowling Department.
A Good Batting Lineup with Great Captain.
 

Starfighter

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Pakistan Team is Very Strong can beat any of the Teams you have mentioned
1) 2 Great Openers - Anwar and Hanif
2) No 3 - Younis Khan - Pakistan's modern batting great with more than 10,000 Runs
3) Middle Order - Inzamam and Miandad - Powerful Middle Order
4) Wicket Keeper - Sarfaraz - best wicket keeper batsmen for Pakistan
5) All Rounders - Imran and Wasim - Imran a Great Captain
6) Off Spinner - Saqlain Mushtaq (can also bowl doosra)
7) Leg Spinner - Mushtaq Ahmed (Googlies)
8) Fast Bowler - Waqar
This Team can beat any Team as they have Strong Spin Department and Fast Bowling Department.
A Good Batting Lineup with Great Captain.
Other teams are better at batting, bowling, keeping and fielding, so I'd expect them to win.
 

Victor Ian

International Coach
Someone Sim this. 5 test series against aus, wi, sa and England. If pak gets a win in each series, then it's a plausible statement.
 

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
Australia XI
1) Justin Langer
2) Matthew Hayden
3) Don Bradman
4) Steve Smith
5) Steve Waugh*
6) Allan Border
7) Adam Gilchrist+
8) Ray Lindwall
9) Shane Warne
10) Dennis Lillee
11) Glenn McGrath

South Africa XI
1) Barry Richards
2) Graeme Smith*
3) Gary Kirsten
4) Jacques Kallis
5) Graeme Pollock
6) AB de Villiers
7) Mark Boucher+
8) Shaun Pollock
9) Hugh Tayfield
10) Dale Steyn
11) Allan Donald

West Indies XI
1) Chris Gayle
2) Gordon Greenidge
3) Viv Richards
4) Brian Lara
5) Clive Lloyd*
6) Gary Sobers
7) Jeff Dujon+
8) Malcolm Marshall
9) Michael Holding
10) Joel Garner
11) Curtly Ambrose

Pakistan XI
1) Saeed Anwar
2) Hanif Mohammad
3) Younis Khan
4) Inzamam ul Haq
5) Javed Miandad
6) Imran Khan*
7) Sarfaraz Ahmed+
8) Wasim Akram
9) Saqlain Mushtaq
10) Mushtaq Ahmed
11) Waqar Younis
 
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CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
Australia XI
1) Justin Langer
2) Matthew Hayden
3) Don Bradman
4) Steve Smith
5) Steve Waugh*
6) Allan Border
7) Adam Gilchrist+
8) Ray Lindwall
9) Shane Warne
10) Dennis Lillee
11) Glenn McGrath

South Africa XI
1) Barry Richards
2) Graeme Smith*
3) Gary Kirsten
4) Jacques Kallis
5) Graeme Pollock
6) AB de Villiers
7) Mark Boucher+
8) Shaun Pollock
9) Hugh Tayfield
10) Dale Steyn
11) Allan Donald

West Indies XI
1) Chris Gayle
2) Gordon Greenidge
3) Viv Richards
4) Brian Lara
5) Clive Lloyd*
6) Gary Sobers
7) Jeff Dujon+
8) Malcolm Marshall
9) Michael Holding
10) Joel Garner
11) Curtly Ambrose

Pakistan XI
1) Saeed Anwar
2) Hanif Mohammad
3) Younis Khan
4) Inzamam ul Haq
5) Javed Miandad
6) Imran Khan
7) Sarfaraz Ahmed+
8) Wasim Akram
9) Saqlain Mushtaq
10) Mushtaq Ahmed
11) Waqar Younis
If we have a Tournament between these 4 Teams it will be a Blockbuster.
 

Bolo.

International Captain
What kind of a W/L ratio would Aus have against other ATG sides? I reckon everyone stronger than SL wins a fair number of games despite the big paper gap, and even they grab a few if 50% of games are at home.

Pakistan would likely be up there with WIs with the best win rates with their feast or famine bowlers and quality at home.
 

CricketFan90s

State Vice-Captain
What kind of a W/L ratio would Aus have against other ATG sides? I reckon everyone stronger than SL wins a fair number of games despite the big paper gap, and even they grab a few if 50% of games are at home.

Pakistan would likely be up there with WIs with the best win rates with their feast or famine bowlers and quality at home.
India, New Zealand, England and Sri Lanka are relatively weak compared to the other 4 as they don't have fearsome fast bowlers
 

Sunil1z

International Regular
India, New Zealand, England and Sri Lanka are relatively weak compared to the other 4 as they don't have fearsome fast bowlers
No. of Test series won by Pak in AUS =0
No. of Test series won by Pak in SA = 0
No. of Test series won by Pak in WI = 1

We know how fearsome Pakistani fast bowlers are . You don’t need to write about them in every 3rd sentence of yours .
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
So? Any team can beat any other team occasionally. If you played against NZ or SL there’d be tests where Hadlee or Murali would rip through your team and there wouldn’t be a damn thing you could do about it.
Lets have an imaginary tournament and see.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
No. of Test series won by Pak in AUS =0
No. of Test series won by Pak in SA = 0
No. of Test series won by Pak in WI = 1

We know how fearsome Pakistani fast bowlers are . You don’t need to write about them in every 3rd sentence of yours .
I reckon he has nightmares about Pakistani fast bowlers under his bed.
 

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