*Official* West Indies in South Africa 2022/23

[CricketFan90s]

Who will Win a Test Series between All Time West Indies XI vs All Time South Africa XI ?

West Indies XI-----------South Africa XI
1) Chris Gayle-----------1) Barry Richards
2) Gordon Greenidge---2) Graeme Smith*
3) Viv Richards----------3) Gary Kirsten
4) Brian Lara------------4) Jacques Kallis
5) Clive Lloyd*----------5) Graeme Pollock
6) Gary Sobers----------6) AB de Villiers
7) Jeff Dujon+----------7) Mark Boucher+
8) Malcolm Marshall---8) Shaun Pollock
9) Michael Holding-----9) Hugh Tayfield
10) Joel Garner----------10) Dale Steyn
11) Curtly Ambrose-----11) Allan Donald

 

[CricAddict]

Who will Win a Test Series between All Time West Indies XI vs All Time South Africa XI ?

West Indies XI-----------South Africa XI
1) Chris Gayle-----------1) Barry Richards
2) Gordon Greenidge---2) Graeme Smith*
3) Viv Richards----------3) Gary Kirsten
4) Brian Lara------------4) Jacques Kallis
5) Clive Lloyd*----------5) Graeme Pollock
6) Gary Sobers----------6) AB de Villiers
7) Jeff Dujon+----------7) Mark Boucher+
8) Malcolm Marshall---8) Shaun Pollock
9) Michael Holding-----9) Hugh Tayfield
10) Joel Garner----------10) Dale Steyn
11) Curtly Ambrose-----11) Allan Donald

I will have De Villiers keep and play Aubrey Faulkner too instead of Boucher.

 

[CricketFan90s]

I will have De Villiers keep and play Aubrey Faulkner too instead of Boucher.

I will not go for De Villiers as he was not really experienced enough only 45 innings he did Wicket Keeping and Aubrey Faulkner is from WW1, I just avoid old players if I can built a great team with new players.

 

[CricketFan90s]

Who will Win a Test Series between All Time West Indies XI vs All Time South Africa XI ?

West Indies XI-----------South Africa XI
1) Chris Gayle-----------1) Barry Richards
2) Gordon Greenidge---2) Graeme Smith*
3) Viv Richards----------3) Gary Kirsten
4) Brian Lara------------4) Jacques Kallis
5) Clive Lloyd*----------5) Graeme Pollock
6) Gary Sobers----------6) AB de Villiers
7) Jeff Dujon+----------7) Mark Boucher+
8) Malcolm Marshall---8) Shaun Pollock
9) Michael Holding-----9) Hugh Tayfield
10) Joel Garner----------10) Dale Steyn
11) Curtly Ambrose-----11) Allan Donald

90 Overs a Day
South Africa Bowling
1) Dale Steyn - 17 Overs
2) Shaun Pollock - 19 Overs
3) Allan Donald - 19 Overs
4) Hugh Tayfield - 25 Overs
5) Jacques Kallis - 10 Overs

West Indies Bowling
1) Malcolm Marshall - 17 Overs
2) Curtly Ambrose - 18 Overs
3) Michael Holding - 16 Overs
4) Joel Garner - 17 Overs
5) Gary Sobers - 17 Overs
6) Chris Gayle - 5 Overs

 

[WpGuy]

Who will Win a Test Series between All Time West Indies XI vs All Time South Africa XI ?

West Indies XI-----------South Africa XI
1) Chris Gayle-----------1) Barry Richards
2) Gordon Greenidge---2) Graeme Smith*
3) Viv Richards----------3) Gary Kirsten
4) Brian Lara------------4) Jacques Kallis
5) Clive Lloyd*----------5) Graeme Pollock
6) Gary Sobers----------6) AB de Villiers
7) Jeff Dujon+----------7) Mark Boucher+
8) Malcolm Marshall---8) Shaun Pollock
9) Michael Holding-----9) Hugh Tayfield
10) Joel Garner----------10) Dale Steyn
11) Curtly Ambrose-----11) Allan Donald

Amla over Gary.

 

[G. S. Kohli]

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[CricketFan90s]

Amla over Gary.

I will take Kirsten as he had an Avg 70+ at No3 and was very consistent in 90s in almost every nation.

 

[Prince EWS]

I will take Kirsten as he had an Avg 70+ at No3 and was very consistent in 90s in almost every nation.

Obviously your #1 criteria.

 

[CricketFan90s]

Who will Win a Test Series between All Time West Indies XI vs All Time South Africa XI ?

West Indies XI-----------South Africa XI
1) Chris Gayle-----------1) Barry Richards
2) Gordon Greenidge---2) Graeme Smith*
3) Viv Richards----------3) Gary Kirsten
4) Brian Lara------------4) Jacques Kallis
5) Clive Lloyd*----------5) Graeme Pollock
6) Gary Sobers----------6) AB de Villiers
7) Jeff Dujon+----------7) Mark Boucher+
8) Malcolm Marshall---8) Shaun Pollock
9) Michael Holding-----9) Hugh Tayfield
10) Joel Garner----------10) Dale Steyn
11) Curtly Ambrose-----11) Allan Donald

South Africa has a perfect team 2 World Class Openers, A Stable and Consistent No 3, 2 Amazing Middle Order Players, A Highly Experienced Wicket Keeper, A Batting and a Bowling All Rounder, A Good Spinner, 2 Great Fast Bowlers and a Great Captain.

West Indies is not so perfect as they don't have a specialist spinner but this team is much more dangerous, 2 Attacking Openers, A Legendary No3 and No4, A Reliable No 5, Best Wicket Keeper for pace bowling, A batting Allrounder who can be a good spinner, 4 Famous Quartet which will give sleepless nights and a great captain.

 

[Slifer]

South Africa has a perfect team 2 World Class Openers, A Stable and Consistent No 3, 2 Amazing Middle Order Players, A Highly Experienced Wicket Keeper, A Batting and a Bowling All Rounder, A Spinner, 2 Great Fast Bowlers and a Great Captain.

West Indies is not so perfect as they don't have a specialist spinner but this team is much more dangerous, 2 Attacking Openers, A Legendary No3 and No4, A Reliable No 5, Best Wicket Keeper for pace bowling, A batting Allrounder who can be a good spinner, 4 Famous Quartet which will give sleepless nights and a great captain.

Given that South Africa don't have a spinner of the caliber of a Warne or Murali, WI can afford to play Gibbs ahead of one of the pacemen. And no AI all time team is going to include Lloyd ahead of Headley or Kanhai. Lastly, Hunte over Gayle:

Greenidge
Hunte
Headley
Viv*
Lara
Sobers
Dujon+
Marshall
Garner
Holding
Gibbs

 

[CricketFan90s]

Given that South Africa don't have a spinner of the caliber of a Warne or Murali, WI can afford to play Gibbs ahead of one of the pacemen. And no AI all time team is going to include Lloyd ahead of Headley or Kanhai. Lastly, Hunte over Gayle:

Greenidge
Hunte
Headley
Viv*
Lara
Sobers
Dujon+
Marshall
Garner
Holding
Gibbs

I went for Gayle as he was a part time spinner who along with Sobers can fill the void of a specialist spinner, Kanhai was a very good no3 player but Viv Richards and Lara can exchange that position as both had a great record at No3. Headley was a great No3 player but except Bradman i don't consider other players seriously in an all time XI if i have some one post 1970s who can fill their position.

But all your suggestions makes very good sense as Headley, Kanhai were very good No3 players and Richards, Lara can come at No4 and No5. I may stick to Lloyd as he had more Test series wins and World Cups compared to Richards as captain (had more draws)

I don't want to loose the pace quartet
Marshall, Garner, Ambrose all Avg 20-21
Holding 23+
In Pitches that are extremely suitable for Spinners i may go for Gibbs.

 

[CricketFan90s]

Clive Lloyd

Is Captain	1974-1985	74	111	9	5233	242*	51.30	14	27	3
Is Not Captain	1966-1974	36	64	5	2282	178	38.67	5	12	1

Viv Richards

Is Captain	1980-1991	50	74	6	3068	146	45.11	6	23	4
Is Not Captain	1974-1985	71	108	6	5472	291	53.64	18	22	6

This is the reason i choose Lloyd over Richards as Captain

 

[CricketFan90s]

West Indies Lost only 2 Series from March 10th 1976 to April 22nd 1995

1978 West Indies in India lost to India 0-1 (They lost the match in which Holding, Roberts, Garner, Croft, Marshall were absent)
1980 West Indies in New Zealand lost to New Zealand 0-1 (They lost the match by 1 Wicket and due to Great Performance from Richard Hadlee as he took 5 Wickets in first innings and 6 Wickets in Second Innings and poor performance from West Indies batting)

So in Conclusion West Indies Pace Quartet never failed for 19+Years in World Cricket

 

[CricketFan90s]

Hugh Tayfield took 170 Wkts in 61 Inns at an Avg of 25.91 which is 2.79 Wkts per Inns
Shane Warne took 708 Wkts in 273 Inns at an Avg of 25.41 which is 2.59 Wkts per Inns

So Tayfield was a great spinner in 1950s

 

[Dendarii]

I will take Kirsten as he had an Avg 70+ at No3 and was very consistent in 90s in almost every nation.

Kirsten only batted at 3 in 10 matches (14 innings). If you're ruling out De Villiers as a keeper based on insufficient matches then surely that rules out Kirsten at 3? And Richards, and Pollock at 5...

 

[CricketFan90s]

Kirsten only batted at 3 in 10 matches (14 innings). If you're ruling out De Villiers as a keeper based on insufficient matches then surely that rules out Kirsten at 3? And Richards, and Pollock at 5...

Kirsten was an opener for most of his career so if he comes at No 3 it won't make much difference. Wicket Keeping is a very important skill and very tough so its better to have a keeper who is more experienced as leaving one or two catches can be very costly in a Match. Pollock no4 coming at no5 also doesn't make much difference.

 

[G. S. Kohli]

Hugh Tayfield took 170 Wkts in 61 Inns at an Avg of 25.91 which is 2.79 Wkts per Inns
Shane Warne took 708 Wkts in 273 Inns at an Avg of 25.41 which is 2.59 Wkts per Inns

So Tayfield was a great spinner in 1950s

Yes

 

[G. S. Kohli]

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Stats

-Among the current West Indies squad, Kraigg Brathwaite, Gabriel, Blackwood and Holder were part of the side that played their last Test in South Africa. The hosts, on the other hand, had Bavuma and Simon Harmer in their XI.

-South Africa have won 24 of the 27 Tests they have played at SuperSport Park in Centurion. The venue had last hosted a drawn Test way back in December 2009.

- South Africa have lost just two of the last 11 Tests played at the venue, dating back to 2011. The losses came against Australia in 2014 and India in 2021.

- Kagiso Rabada is one five-wicket haul away from matching Vernon Philander's tally

- Among active West Indies cricketers, only Roston Chase (8 for 60) and Shannon Gabriel (8 for 62) have better bowling figures for an innings than Gudakesh Motie (7 for 37),

 

[Socerer 01]

de Zorzi and Coetzee both are making their debuts, Muthusamy at 7 as only spinner

 

[Gnske]

de Zorzi and Coetzee both are making their debuts, Muthusamy at 7 as only spinner

Truly high iq selecting