PaulLennon
U19 Cricketer
draw in bangladesh too prolly.
Ind would have a superior record simply cause Ind would likely win in Bang, SL, WI and Pak (All would probably be whitewashes too) and have already won in Aus and drawn in England.
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*Official* Australia in India 2023
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Ind would have a superior record simply cause Ind would likely win in Bang, SL, WI and Pak (All would probably be whitewashes too) and have already won in Aus and drawn in England.
Slifer
International Captain
I already stated India are the best team going around. What exactly are you disagreeing with me about.??
PaulLennon
U19 Cricketer
the fact that they would have "similar" records.
also their winning in SA is not a given. I could see SA upsetting them on spicy pitches.
Pavel
Cricket Spectator
Nope, not with their batting line up.
Slifer
International Captain
My conclusions aren't that farfetched. Australia has lost exactly one series in RSA since re admission. And spicy wkts or not, their current team is no match for Australia. You stated India would likely white wash all of SL, India, PAKISTAN, and WI away. While it's probably likely as well, it's no more set in stone than my assessments.
I said India would likely have a similar up and down record away, meaning they'd lose some, win some and maybe draw some. They'd lose to Nz and RSA away, and draw or lose in England. And beat wi, sl, and maybe Pakistan. That's an up and down record.
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GotSpin
Hall of Fame Member
Australia are winning in Bangladesh
PaulLennon
U19 Cricketer
It is more set in stone simply because India have already whitewashed three of those teams away last tour. And Pakistan keeps losing to teams like WI and SL as well as NZ, Eng and Aus at home - matchups which Indian win heavily each time.
Aus's wins against SA post readmission had to do with them having one of their greatest teams of all time.
They lost last time 1-3. Saying that Aus will win in SA cause they beat them at home is like saying Ind would have beat SA in 2022 cause they beat them even harder in 2019 at home but they lost that series. Similarly Aus can lose in SA considering that a lot of players in the current team are the ones who were there in 2018.
The chances of both Aus and Ind winning in SA away is the same. You can't say that Aus will defeat SA with confidence and that Ind will lose to SA. In fact, India without Rohit and Jadeja lost 1-2 and even in the lost matches the first innings scores were almost level (3rd test India had a lead).
PaulLennon
U19 Cricketer
Naah. They have weaknesses against spin. I could see Miraz and Shakib taking one off them just like in 2017 on turning tracks. Don't let the Pakistani flat tracks cloud judgement.
PaulLennon
U19 Cricketer
low scoring match they could.
PaulLennon
U19 Cricketer
Saying that Aus would win in SA and Bang when they haven't won their last series there is dumb. I'm pretty sure most ppl post the Pak win were expecting Aus to be better in SL and Ind than they actually have been even though they lost their last series there 0-3 and 1-2 back in 2016 and 2017.
Also I'm guessing people were expecting Aus to beat Ind in 2020-21 even though Ind had won in 2018-19.
You can't say with any surety that a team will win where they haven't last time unless they actually do. You could say that India could win in SA in 2023 and NZ whenever they tour cause of these two team's relative weakening but that would be dumb cause India didn't win there in their last tours.
Also I'm guessing people were expecting Aus to beat Ind in 2020-21 even though Ind had won in 2018-19.
You can't say with any surety that a team will win where they haven't last time unless they actually do. You could say that India could win in SA in 2023 and NZ whenever they tour cause of these two team's relative weakening but that would be dumb cause India didn't win there in their last tours.
Slifer
International Captain
Show me where I said it was set in stone with any of my assessments. The fact remains that away vs all teams, India will likely win a few series, lose a few and possibly draw a few. Australia would likely do the same. That's what up and down means.
Is India going to win more away series than Australia maybe, maybe not. Don't know why you're so hung up on semantics.
Slifer
International Captain
Then you're going to use examples such as Australia losing last time in RSA so they're unlikely to win now. And who even mentioned Bangladesh?
But for schitts and giggles let's use Bangladesh. They white washed wi at home in 2018 then three years later, they themselves got white washed at home vs WI. Australia are miles better than WI. So no reason Australia can't do to/in Bangladesh what WI did in 2021.
But for schitts and giggles let's use Bangladesh. They white washed wi at home in 2018 then three years later, they themselves got white washed at home vs WI. Australia are miles better than WI. So no reason Australia can't do to/in Bangladesh what WI did in 2021.
PaulLennon
U19 Cricketer
WI are a different team. Direct transitivity does not apply in cricket.
WI play spin in Asia better. when they were in Ind in 2018, their lowest score was 127. Australia has already scored lower than that twice this tour. They also managed a 300+ score.
SA controls their home pitches so there won't be any MCG/SCG style flat pitches where they know they can't outbat Australia. So you'll have Gabba type pitches where with the luck of toss and one good innings, you can win. And who is to say Aus won't have injuries like Ind did with Jadeja/Rohit/Siraj in 2022.
Slifer
International Captain
I'm officially done....smh
PaulLennon
U19 Cricketer
WI have never had the 91 all out or 113 all out horror innings in India. No reason why Shakib/Mehidy cant trigger such a collapse.
Spicy wicket. Aus batting 4th. Target 200-250. Bang favourites.
Spark
Global Moderator
Yes it's amazing how unpredictable results can be when you arbitrarily assume the opposition won't have their best players. Stunning analysis.
Also, a different team making slightly more on different pitches four years ago is absolutely fit for direct comparison to a result that happened yesterday. Also excellent.
centurymaker
Cricketer Of The Year
Well said. I have heard this 1 win out of xyz tests way too often in the past 6 months, and it seemed manipulated.
I felt England were decent even prior to Bazball. They were really good at home and okay away. They only had that awful Ashes away and WI away. And everyone started rating them as though they were useless.