*Official* England in NZ 2023

[nzfan]

Will Young looked out of place in that nz xi game. Had a look at ball by ball and he was really troubled through out the inning both vs pace and spin. I'm thinking it could be mental. Probably playing to prove management wrong or getting a bit desperate. This is what happens when you're in and out with team management lacking faith.

Kyle is likely out of the series too, very disappointing. Highly unlikely Boult will want to play unless Kane/Southee can convince him otherwise.

 

[jcas0167]

Yikes, this is seriously bad.

Stuff

i.stuff.co.nz

 

[_Ed_]

That's crushing for him. Doesn't bode well for his long-term playing future.

 

[Bahnz]

Yikes. You’d think they’d have to call in Boult given the absence of Jamieson and potentially Henry too.

 

[ataraxia]

Suddenly we've fallen from 5 excellent pacers to 1.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Debut for Tickner??!!

Will they try to get someone else in (if not Boult).

 

[NZTailender]

Can't believe in saying this, but won't be too bummed if it's washed out

 

[Mike5181]

Time to pick Ferguson?

 

[Flem274*]

Time to pick Ferguson?

but that might temporarily get in the way of our suicide mission to go from WTC 2021 to dead last.

heads should roll if macewell and tickner bowl in a test together. it's not their fault and i don't like sounding so mean but these guys aren't the best players for their own provinces yet they're considered test bowlers.

 

[Zinzan]

Crushing blow for big Jamo, sad for him, and yes we suddenly look very slim on the pace bowling front.

Am I the only one doubting we'll get much more than 3 days cricket at best in the 1st Test with Cyclone Gabrielle moving fairly slowly & covering such an enormous area?

 

[jcas0167]

Yikes. You’d think they’d have to call in Boult given the absence of Jamieson and potentially Henry too.

As they say in the article, he lives under 1km down the road from Bay Oval :-) Brian Lochore was in retirement in Eketahuna and got a call on a Friday to play for the injury hit All Blacks the following day at Athletic Park against the '71 Lions. He left a note on the fridge: "Gone to Wellington, playing in the Test tomorrow".

 

[Bahnz]

Crushing blow for big Jamo, sad for him, and yes we suddenly look very slim on the pace bowling front.

Am I the only one doubting we'll get much more than 3 days cricket at best in the 1st Test with Cyclone Gabrielle moving fairly slowly & covering such an enormous area?

Tauranga isn’t forecast to get hit nearly as badly as Coromandel and Northland. Very heavy rain tonight, but it is supposed to ease off by morning and there should only be a few scattered showers tomorrow, before a hot sunny day on Wednesday. The ground should be in reasonable condition.

Having said that, the forecast for the match itself looks pretty lousy. Rain developing in the afternoon on Thursday - which is of course a bit of a problem given that the match doesn’t start until 2, and then showers forecast for days 2 and 4. Will be tough work getting a result you’d expect.

 

[jcas0167]

Day 4 at the Mount is looking OK on weather.com and the Norwegian Meteorological Institute (which someone told me was the best for NZ).

Long term weather forecast for Mount Maunganui

Weather forecast for Mount Maunganui for the next 10 days.

www.yr.no

 

[Howe_zat]

Eesh, I would've thought those runs in the UAE years ago would've dragged his away average a bit higher, but no.

21.66 is appalling.

Edit: turns out the author did a sneaky stats manipulation to exclude neutral venues ie. UAE. With that included he has 879 runs at 26.63 away, which is still pretty bad.

I don't think it's a stats manipulation so much as just forgetting that the UAE matches are neutral. Cricinfo has his away average as the article states.

26.63 is about the career average of an England opener recently

 

[Flem274*]

Yeah Nicholls has played some frankly impressive innings at home against good sides in challenging situations but aside from one series winning tour in the UAE he has been a passenger overseas.

You'd think watching him bat on the front foot he'd be the opposite if anything. Strange player, but despite his likely failure this week a 50 test career where he's averaged 40 for much of it and 48 at home is a positive contribution to the team. I've always had a soft spot for him ever since CW wanted his blood for being an ugly bat to watch but I think we'll view his career kindly in 10-20 years. He's an NZ 2003 player in 2023.

 

[Howe_zat]

Anyway England's batting average in day/night tests is 20.15 so I expect the rain knocking out a few sessions is unlikely to be an issue

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Anyway England's batting average in day/night tests is 20.15 so I expect the rain knocking out a few sessions is unlikely to be an issue

England unbeaten in day/night Tests under Stokes though.

 

[ParwazHaiJunoon]

but that might temporarily get in the way of our suicide mission to go from WTC 2021 to dead last.

heads should roll if macewell and tickner bowl in a test together. it's not their fault and i don't like sounding so mean but these guys aren't the best players for their own provinces yet they're considered test bowlers.

You have Ben Sears too.

Southee
Ferguson
Sears
Wagner
is a good attack

 

[OnTheBank]

We should just bite the bullet and bring Doug Bracewell back as a straight swap for Jamieson

 

[nzfan]

As they say in the article, he lives under 1km down the road from Bay Oval :-) Brian Lochore was in retirement in Eketahuna and got a call on a Friday to play for the injury hit All Blacks the following day at Athletic Park against the '71 Lions. He left a note on the fridge: "Gone to Wellington, playing in the Test tomorrow".

Let's see if Stead has any clout at all. Last tour to UK, stead ruled him out but then boult made the side despite short of match practice.

This is what happens when you don't build players by giving them opportunities When possible but our management went for short term gains and we're where we are right now.