All Time Test XI Which Team will Win ?

[shortpitched713]

Dude, is someone holding you at gunpoint, if you don't give the "consensus" Test XI picks from each of these eras, and is about to ask you to give an exam paper on it shortly?

Otherwise, calm down, no one owes you an explanation on any of this ****. And if you care to research it that deeply, you'll realize that the whole Cricket Chat forum has been giving their opinions and developing consensus on ATG Test players for the last couple of decades. Just use the "Search" feature.

 

[CricketFan90s]

Dude, is someone holding you at gunpoint, if you don't give the "consensus" Test XI picks from each of these eras, and is about to ask you to give an exam paper on it shortly?

Otherwise, calm down, no one owes you an explanation on any of this ****. And if you care to research it that deeply, you'll realize that the whole Cricket Chat forum has been giving their opinions and developing consensus on ATG Test players for the last couple of decades. Just use the "Search" feature.

I am just excited to see some real Super Knowledgeable guys here wanted to know their opinion. They have done a lot of research so just want to know their opinion as I have been researching this stuff for quite sometime. It will be great if they solve my questions. Like I was never been able to come to a conclusion between who was better Kapil or Botham ?, it’s very debatable as lot of factors go into it and no one can come to an exact conclusion. I just showed some numbers from Cricinfo website but sometimes numbers don’t do justice. So it’s a good debate platform where you have different point of views coming up which is not a bad activity.

 

[Coronis]

I am just excited to see some real Super Knowledgeable guys here wanted to know their opinion. They have done a lot of research so just want to know their opinion as I have been researching this stuff for quite sometime. It will be great if they solve my questions. Like I was never been able to come to a conclusion between who was better Kapil or Botham ?, it’s very debatable as lot of factors go into it and no one can come to an exact conclusion. I just showed some numbers from Cricinfo website but sometimes numbers don’t do justice. So it’s a good debate platform where you have different point of views coming up which is not a bad activity.

I believe its a generally accepted consensus on here that Botham > Kapil

 

[CricketFan90s]

I believe its a generally accepted consensus on here that Botham > Kapil

yeah i understand first impression is best impression. Just looking at Botham's performances in Ashes
1) He made his debut in 1977 Ashes 3rd Test when England Leading the Series 1-0 and took five wickets in his first innings and took another 5 wickets in 4th test in first innings and England won both 3rd and 4th test and won the Ashes 3-0.
2) Played a good Allrounder's role by scoring 291 with bat (3rd highest for England) and took 23 wickets (highest number for England) and played a crucial role in 5-1 series win for England.
3) 1981 Ashes Botham was the King Famously called "Botham's Ashes"
4) 1985 Ashes botham took highest number of wickets 31 and was also good with the bat with an average of 31.25.
5) 1986 Ashes Botham player of the Match for First Test win giving England 1-0 lead, took 5 wickets in the 4th test in the first innings and played crucial part in 2nd win in the series for England. England won the series 2-1.

So Ian Botham was the backbone for England Dominating Australia in Ashes for a decade from 1977 to 1987
1) England Won 17 Matches in this period compared to only 6 Wins for Australia
2) England won 5 Series and Australia only 1 (with a minor lead of 2-1)

England media has every reason to Worship this guy as their Celebrity.

In Ashes History we can call 1977-1987 as Botham's Decade

 

[Nintendo]

Gonna sim this starting with 1900 to 1939 vs 70-89. Built 18 man squads based off the 11 man squad's given + other players mentioned in the thread and my VERY limited knowledge of players from those two era's.

1900-1930
1) Hobbs 2) Hutton 3) Headley 4) Hammond 5) Bradman(c) 6) McCabe 7) Ames(wk) 8) Larwood 9) Grimmett 10) Reilly 11) Barnes 12)Faulkner 13) ROSS gregory 14) Sutcliffe 15) Trumper 16) Verity 17) Bill bowes 18)Bill Whitty
1970-89
Third Row is the Greatest Test XI from 1970-1989 : 1) Barry Richards 2) Gavaskar 3) Viv Richards 4) Greg Chappell 5) Border 6) Imran(c) 7) Knott(wk) 8) Procter 9) Hadlee 10) Marshall 11) Qadir 12)Underwood, 13)Imran 14) Kapil 15) Lillee 16) Simpson 17) Boycott 18)Botham

 

[The Sean]

Gonna sim this starting with 1900 to 1939 vs 70-89. Built 18 man squads based off the 11 man squad's given + other players mentioned in the thread and my VERY limited knowledge of players from those two era's.

1900-1930
1) Hobbs 2) Hutton 3) Headley 4) Hammond 5) Bradman(c) 6) McCabe 7) Ames(wk) 8) Larwood 9) Grimmett 10) Reilly 11) Barnes 12)Faulkner 13) ROSS gregory 14) Sutcliffe 15) Trumper 16) Verity 17) Bill bowes 18)Bill Whitty
1970-89
Third Row is the Greatest Test XI from 1970-1989 : 1) Barry Richards 2) Gavaskar 3) Viv Richards 4) Greg Chappell 5) Border 6) Imran(c) 7) Knott(wk) 8) Procter 9) Hadlee 10) Marshall 11) Qadir 12)Underwood, 13)Imran 14) Kapil 15) Lillee 16) Simpson 17) Boycott 18)Botham

The first team has been updated to include Sutcliffe, not Hutton.

 

[Nintendo]

The first team has been updated to include Sutcliffe, not Hutton.

Both in the squad, i'll just start with sutcliffe.

 

[CricketFan90s]

The first team has been updated to include Sutcliffe, not Hutton.

My Updated List after Yesterday Discussion

 

[Nintendo]

My Updated List after Yesterday Discussion

I'mma be real I can't tell the players from just the photo's, I barely know anything about 1900-1939 cricket. If you can write the list's out i'll redo the squad.

 

[CricketFan90s]

I'mma be real I can't tell the players from just the photo's, I barely know anything about 1900-1939 cricket. If you can write the list's out i'll redo the squad.

First Row in the Picture is the Greatest Test XI from 1901-1939 in Cricket : 1) Hobbs 2) Sutcliffe 3) Bradman(c) 4) Headley 5) Hammond 6) McCabe 7) Ames(wk) 8) Larwood 9) Grimmett 10) Reilly 11) Barnes Second Row is the Greatest Test XI from 1946-1969 : 1) Hutton 2) Morris 3) Barrington 4) Harvey 5) Worrell 6) Sobers 7) Miller 8) Waite(wk) 9) Benaud(c) 10) Lindwall 11) Trueman Third Row is the Greatest Test XI from 1970-1989 : 1) Greenidge 2) Gavaskar 3) Richards 4) Chappell 5) Border 6) Imran(c) 7) Knott(wk) 8) Hadlee 9) Marshall 10) Lillee 11) Underwood Fourth Row is the Greatest Test XI from 1990-2009 : 1) Smith 2) Hayden 3) Ponting 4) Kallis 5) Tendulkar 6) Waugh(c) 7) Gilchrist(wk) 8) Wasim 9) Warne 10) Ambrose 11) McGrath Which Team is the Strongest ? Suggest any changes to any Team to make them Stronger

 

[CricketFan90s]

I'mma be real I can't tell the players from just the photo's, I barely know anything about 1900-1939 cricket. If you can write the list's out i'll redo the squad.

I wanted to take Barry Richards and Mike Procter but didn't as they never proved their talent unfortunately on International Stage but i can change my mind if someone can give a good feedback

 

[Nintendo]

70-89 1) Greenidge 2) Gavaskar 3) Viv Richards 4) Greg Chappell 5) Border 6) Imran(c) 7) Knott(wk) 8) Lillee 9) Hadlee 10) Marshall 11) Underwood 12)Qadir , 13) Boycott14) Kapil 15) Proctor16) Simpson 17) Barry richards 18)Botham

00-39 1) Hobbs 2) Sutcliffe 3) Bradman 4) Headley 5) Hammond6) McCabe 7) Ames(wk) 8) Larwood 9) Grimmett 10) Reilly 11) Barnes 12)Faulkner 13) ROSS gregory 14) Hutton 15) Trumper 16) Verity 17) Bill bowes 18)Bill Whitty

updated squads.

 

[CricketFan90s]

70-89 1) Greenidge 2) Gavaskar 3) Viv Richards 4) Greg Chappell 5) Border 6) Imran(c) 7) Knott(wk) 8) Lillee 9) Hadlee 10) Marshall 11) Underwood 12)Qadir , 13)Imran 14) Kapil 15) Proctor16) Simpson 17) Barry richards 18)Botham

00-39 1) Hobbs 2) Sutcliffe 3) Headley 4) Hammond 5) Bradman(c) 6) McCabe 7) Ames(wk) 8) Larwood 9) Grimmett 10) Reilly 11) Barnes 12)Faulkner 13) ROSS gregory 14) Hutton 15) Trumper 16) Verity 17) Bill bowes 18)Bill Whitty

updated squads.

you have to include Maurice Tate he was a very successful medium pace bowling allrounder in 1930s, you can't include Hutton as he played only 21 innings out of 138 innings in 1930s.

 

[Nintendo]

1st test
Green/seamers pitch
70-89 xi
Greenidge 2) Gavaskar 3) Viv Richards 4) Greg Chappell 5) Border 6) Imran(c) 7) Knott(wk) 8) Procter 9) Hadlee 10) Marshall 11) Underwood

00-39 xi:
1) Hobbs 2) Sutcliffe 3) Bradman 4) Headley 5) Hammond6) McCabe 7) Ames(wk) 8) Larwood 9) Grimmett 10) Reilly 11) Barnes

70 win the toss and bat

Lunch day 1: 75/0 gavaskar 36* greenidge 36*

tea day 1: 158/0 Greenidge 86* Gavaskar 65*

End of day 1: 251/1 Greenidge 129* Gavaskar 85 Larwood 1-45

Lunch day 2: 359/2 Greenidge 147 viv 95*

Tea day 2: 428/5 Viv 108 O'reilly 2-139

70 XI 488 ALL OUT: GREENIDGE 147 FROM 350 15 X 4 1 X 6, VIV 108 FROM 173 14 X 4, GAVASKAR 85 FROM 22 7 X 4 LARWOOD 3-86 O'REILLY 3-140

End of day 2: 34/0 HOBBS 22* SUTCLIFFE 11*

LUNCH DAY 3: 95/1 Sutcliffe 39* hobbs 34 I khan 1-15

Tea day 3: 162/2 Sutcliffe 47 Bradman 46* Procter 1-30

End of day 3: 242/7 Bradman 80 Marshall 3-52 Procter 2-52

00-39 252 all out: Bradman 80 from 194 9 x 4, Marshall 5-60 Procter 3-64

Gavaskar cops a bouncer from larwood, retired hurt, extent of injury will be known at end of game

Lunch day 4: 51/1 Viv 25* Barnes 1-22

Tea day 4: 70 XI 161 ALL OUT: VIV 57 FROM 69 9 X 4, GRIMMITT 4-40 LARWOOD 2-35

End of day 4: 59/1 Hobbs 28* Bradman 12* Marshall 1-13

Lunch day 5: 132/2 Bradman 59* Marshall 2-33

Tea day 5: 206/3 Bradman 86 I khan 1-36

End of day 5: 267/9 Match DRAWN: BRADMAN 86 FROM 197 7 X 4, I KHAN 3-46 MARHSHALL 3-69

MOTM VIV RICHARDS 107 AND 59

OTHER NOTABLE PERFORMANCES: MARSHALL 5-60 AND 3-69
GREENIDGE 147
PROCTER 33, 3-64, 1-60
BRADMAN 80 AND 86

SCORECARDS:

 

[CricketFan90s]

1st test
Green/seamers pitch
70-89 xi
Greenidge 2) Gavaskar 3) Viv Richards 4) Greg Chappell 5) Border 6) Imran(c) 7) Knott(wk) 8) Procter 9) Hadlee 10) Marshall 11) Underwood

00-39 xi:
1) Hobbs 2) Sutcliffe 3) Bradman 4) Headley 5) Hammond6) McCabe 7) Ames(wk) 8) Larwood 9) Grimmett 10) Reilly 11) Barnes

70 win the toss and bat

Lunch day 1: 75/0 gavaskar 36* greenidge 36*

tea day 1: 158/0 Greenidge 86* Gavaskar 65*

End of day 1: 251/1 Greenidge 129* Gavaskar 85 Larwood 1-45

Lunch day 2: 359/2 Greenidge 147 viv 95*

Tea day 2: 428/5 Viv 108 O'reilly 2-139

70 XI 488 ALL OUT: GREENIDGE 147 FROM 350 15 X 4 1 X 6, VIV 108 FROM 173 14 X 4, GAVASKAR 85 FROM 22 7 X 4 LARWOOD 3-86 O'REILLY 3-140

End of day 2: 34/0 HOBBS 22* SUTCLIFFE 11*

LUNCH DAY 3: 95/1 Sutcliffe 39* hobbs 34 I khan 1-15

Tea day 3: 162/2 Sutcliffe 47 Bradman 46* Procter 1-30

End of day 3: 242/7 Bradman 80 Marshall 3-52 Procter 2-52

00-39 252 all out: Bradman 80 from 194 9 x 4, Marshall 5-60 Procter 3-64

Gavaskar cops a bouncer from larwood, retired hurt, extent of injury will be known at end of game

Lunch day 4: 51/1 Viv 25* Barnes 1-22

Tea day 4: 70 XI 161 ALL OUT: VIV 57 FROM 69 9 X 4, GRIMMITT 4-40 LARWOOD 2-35

End of day 4: 59/1 Hobbs 28* Bradman 12* Marshall 1-13

Lunch day 5: 132/2 Bradman 59* Marshall 2-33

oh my god hope Gavaskar recovers soon if not we have Gooch, Boycott, barry richards to replace him in the next match

 

[CricketFan90s]

1st test
Green/seamers pitch
70-89 xi
Greenidge 2) Gavaskar 3) Viv Richards 4) Greg Chappell 5) Border 6) Imran(c) 7) Knott(wk) 8) Procter 9) Hadlee 10) Marshall 11) Underwood

00-39 xi:
1) Hobbs 2) Sutcliffe 3) Bradman 4) Headley 5) Hammond6) McCabe 7) Ames(wk) 8) Larwood 9) Grimmett 10) Reilly 11) Barnes

70 win the toss and bat

Lunch day 1: 75/0 gavaskar 36* greenidge 36*

tea day 1: 158/0 Greenidge 86* Gavaskar 65*

End of day 1: 251/1 Greenidge 129* Gavaskar 85 Larwood 1-45

Lunch day 2: 359/2 Greenidge 147 viv 95*

Tea day 2: 428/5 Viv 108 O'reilly 2-139

70 XI 488 ALL OUT: GREENIDGE 147 FROM 350 15 X 4 1 X 6, VIV 108 FROM 173 14 X 4, GAVASKAR 85 FROM 22 7 X 4 LARWOOD 3-86 O'REILLY 3-140

End of day 2: 34/0 HOBBS 22* SUTCLIFFE 11*

LUNCH DAY 3: 95/1 Sutcliffe 39* hobbs 34 I khan 1-15

Tea day 3: 162/2 Sutcliffe 47 Bradman 46* Procter 1-30

End of day 3: 242/7 Bradman 80 Marshall 3-52 Procter 2-52

00-39 252 all out: Bradman 80 from 194 9 x 4, Marshall 5-60 Procter 3-64

Gavaskar cops a bouncer from larwood, retired hurt, extent of injury will be known at end of game

Lunch day 4: 51/1 Viv 25* Barnes 1-22

Tea day 4: 70 XI 161 ALL OUT: VIV 57 FROM 69 9 X 4, GRIMMITT 4-40 LARWOOD 2-35

End of day 4: 59/1 Hobbs 28* Bradman 12* Marshall 1-13

Lunch day 5: 132/2 Bradman 59* Marshall 2-33

How is the pitch responding, just heard in the dressing room Bradman is planning to have a Spin friendly pitch to be prepared for the upcoming match. He wants Reilly and Grimmett to take good rest.

 

[Nintendo]

2ND test
Spinners Pitch
70-89 xi
Greenidge 2) Richards, B 3) Viv Richards 4) Greg Chappell 5) Border 6) Imran(c) 7) Knott(wk) 8) Procter 9) Hadlee 10) Marshall 11) Underwood

00-39 xi:
1) Hobbs 2) Sutcliffe 3) Bradman 4) Headley 5) Hammond6) McCabe 7) Ames(wk) 8) Larwood 9) Grimmett 10) Reilly 11) Barnes

00-39 win the toss and bat

70-89 BRING IN RICHARDS,B FOR GAVASKAR, GAVASKAR IS OUT FOR 4 WEEKS INJURED, WILL MISS THE REST OF THE SERIES

LUNCH DAY 1: 76/0 hobbs 37* Sutcliffe 34*

Tea day 1: 147/3 Hobbs 68 sutcliffe 51 Procter 1-16 hadlee 1-29

End of day 1: 241/3 Hammond 52*

Lunch day 2: 316/9 Headley 71 Hadlee 4-72 Procter 3-70

00-39 339 ALL OUT: HEADLEY 71 FROM 114 10 X 4, SUTCLIFFE 68 FROM 150 6 X 4, HOBBS 51 FROM 155 4 X 4, HAMMOND 55 FROM 125 8 X 4, HADLEE 4-82 PROCTER 3-79

Tea day 2: 28/0 RICHARDS 15* GREENIDGE 12*

END OF DAY 2: 102/3 RICHARDS 28 CHAPPELL 27* HAMMOND 1-8 GRIMMETT 1-17

LUNCH DAY 3: 193/7 BORDER 70* GRIMMETT 3-49 O'REILLY 3-73

TEA DAY 3: 267/8 BORDER 99* HADLEE 35 GRIMMETT 4-62

70-89 286 ALL OUT: BORDER 105 FROM 291 9 X 4, HADLEE 35 FROM 91 4 X 4 1 X 6, GRIMMETT 6-75

END OF DAY 3: 49/0 HOBBS 28* SUTCLIFFE 19*

LUNCH DAY 4: 123/1 HOBBS 63* SUTCLIFFE 34 UNDERWOOD 1-32

TEA DAY 4: 229/7 BRADMAN 42 MCCABE 34* UNDERWOOD 6-77

00-39 261 ALL OUT: HOBBS 69 FROM 133 6 X 4 1 X 6, MCCABE 57* FROM 121 10 X 4, UNDERWOOD 7-78 PROCTER 2-50

END OF DAY 4: 23/0 RICHARDS 12* GREENIDGR 10*

LUNCH DAY 5: 109/5 GREENIDGE 35 RICHARDS 25 O'REILLY 4-37

70-89 115 ALL OUT: O'REILLY 6-32 GRIMMETT 4-35

00-39 WIN BY 199 RUNS
HOBBS 68 AND 69 MOTM

OTHER NOTABLE PERORMANCES: UNDERWOOD 7-78
HADLEE 4-82 AND 35
PROCTER 3-79 AND 2-50
BORDER 105
O'REILLY 3-102 AND 6-32
GRIMMETT 6-75 AND 4-35

SERIES 1-0 IN FAVOUR OF 00-39 XI 2 MATCHES IN
SCORECARDS LATER.

 

[CricketFan90s]

1st test
Green/seamers pitch
70-89 xi
Greenidge 2) Gavaskar 3) Viv Richards 4) Greg Chappell 5) Border 6) Imran(c) 7) Knott(wk) 8) Procter 9) Hadlee 10) Marshall 11) Underwood

00-39 xi:
1) Hobbs 2) Sutcliffe 3) Bradman 4) Headley 5) Hammond6) McCabe 7) Ames(wk) 8) Larwood 9) Grimmett 10) Reilly 11) Barnes

70 win the toss and bat

Lunch day 1: 75/0 gavaskar 36* greenidge 36*

tea day 1: 158/0 Greenidge 86* Gavaskar 65*

End of day 1: 251/1 Greenidge 129* Gavaskar 85 Larwood 1-45

Lunch day 2: 359/2 Greenidge 147 viv 95*

Tea day 2: 428/5 Viv 108 O'reilly 2-139

70 XI 488 ALL OUT: GREENIDGE 147 FROM 350 15 X 4 1 X 6, VIV 108 FROM 173 14 X 4, GAVASKAR 85 FROM 22 7 X 4 LARWOOD 3-86 O'REILLY 3-140

End of day 2: 34/0 HOBBS 22* SUTCLIFFE 11*

LUNCH DAY 3: 95/1 Sutcliffe 39* hobbs 34 I khan 1-15

Tea day 3: 162/2 Sutcliffe 47 Bradman 46* Procter 1-30

End of day 3: 242/7 Bradman 80 Marshall 3-52 Procter 2-52

00-39 252 all out: Bradman 80 from 194 9 x 4, Marshall 5-60 Procter 3-64

Gavaskar cops a bouncer from larwood, retired hurt, extent of injury will be known at end of game

Lunch day 4: 51/1 Viv 25* Barnes 1-22

Tea day 4: 70 XI 161 ALL OUT: VIV 57 FROM 69 9 X 4, GRIMMITT 4-40 LARWOOD 2-35

End of day 4: 59/1 Hobbs 28* Bradman 12* Marshall 1-13

Lunch day 5: 132/2 Bradman 59* Marshall 2-33

Tea day 5: 206/3 Bradman 86 I khan 1-36

End of day 5: 267/9 Match DRAWN: BRADMAN 86 FROM 197 7 X 4, I KHAN 3-46 MARHSHALL 3-69

MOTM VIV RICHARDS 107 AND 59

OTHER NOTABLE PERFORMANCES: MARSHALL 5-60 AND 3-69
GREENIDGE 147
PROCTER 33, 3-64, 1-60
BRADMAN 80 AND 86

SCORECARDS:
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What a thrilling finish to a draw match. Bradman coming out to appreciate Les Ames for hanging on to a draw in crucial final moments.

 

[Coronis]

70-89 1) Greenidge 2) Gavaskar 3) Viv Richards 4) Greg Chappell 5) Border 6) Imran(c) 7) Knott(wk) 8) Lillee 9) Hadlee 10) Marshall 11) Underwood 12)Qadir , 13) Boycott14) Kapil 15) Proctor16) Simpson 17) Barry richards 18)Botham

00-39 1) Hobbs 2) Sutcliffe 3) Bradman 4) Headley 5) Hammond6) McCabe 7) Ames(wk) 8) Larwood 9) Grimmett 10) Reilly 11) Barnes 12)Faulkner 13) ROSS gregory 14) Hutton 15) Trumper 16) Verity 17) Bill bowes 18)Bill Whitty

updated squads.

You sure you don’t mean Jack Gregory? Who the **** is Ross Gregory

 

[CricketFan90s]

You sure you don’t mean Jack Gregory? Who the **** is Ross Gregory

Jack Gregory enters a haunted forest, an unseen force pursues Jack into a windmill, and he crashes into a mirror. Small reflections of Jack in the mirror shards come to life and antagonize him, with one becoming a life-sized copy of him and he names it Ross Gregory