trundler
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Yeah because he had all of test history to choose from and decided to exclude spinners just because.
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Australia ATG vs ROW XI - in Australia
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ankitj
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If it's condition dependent, I'd replace Richards with Lara and Murali with Ambrose. We only have Barnes as half spinner. It should suffice.
subshakerz
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Yeah but it worked well so no reason it can't work in this scenario.
subshakerz
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Lara in Australia only averaged 41. Many big knocks but nothing in between. I see Lillee giving him trouble.
trundler
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They had no good spinners. We do in this hypothetical scenario. You could sneak Barnes in but I don't think he counts. If Allan Border can blow up an ATG WI side in Australia then a specialist spinner is necessary just in case the pitch requires it.
Coronis
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Lara away is overrated in general. Cue the triggered posters.
subshakerz
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Newsflash, this ROW side doesn't have good spinners either of ATG standard. So go with pace.
trundler
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That doesn't address my point at all.
subshakerz
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The spinners like Verity aren't good enough.
Shri
Mr. Glass
yes fit enough to polish jaddu's balls when he plays in australia. the shine would help other bowlers as well.
_00_deathscar
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Would love to hear this reasoning. Based on what?
Pant's stats in Australia are insane, and came in a much harder era for batting.
If we're going by some subjective performance based analysis, then are you really telling me what Pant did in the last series isn't enough to put him ahead of ABDV?
And if it's not stats based, and more subjective performance based, why isn't Lara getting in? You dismissed Lara for only averaging 41 or 44 or something in Australia. Pant averages 60+ at a SR of 72 vs ABDV's 44 (SR 42 - yes I know of the important innings).
I'm not saying Pant is a certainty by the way - I'd pick him, you're free to choose the guy you want - but your arguments are extremely inconsistent.
trundler
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Sure he is. Pretty averages aren't the only thing that matters. He played exclusively in tests that included Bradman and a generally very strong Australian lineup overall and came out with respectable stats. His overall career is up there with other great spinners too.
Shri
Mr. Glass
he'd pick moin khan or kakmal or something
ankitj
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Can't wait for the daily reminder.
subshakerz
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I said Pant is a good shout. But I am just more comfortable with a player of ABD's skill against the most relentless Aussie pace attack ever fielded.
ABD has a 4th innings matchwinning ton, a 3rd innings counterattacking ton and that 4th innings blockathon in Australia.
Lara's problem is a low average plus problems with high pace. Lillee and Cummins are going to trouble him.
subshakerz
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It's not averages. Ambrose, Hadlee, Imran and Holding all have won matches on their lonesome in Australia.
trundler
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A 4th pacer won't replace the unique utility of a spinner. Sometimes you have to put your big boy pants on and make tough calls.
