OverratedSanity
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Kohli’s India vs Imran’s Pakistan
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Sunil1z
International Regular
Yes , I saw that Test . And I thought Latham batted very well in both innings like he is doing in Pakistan.
NZ team have a good batting line up for sub-continent conditions. We should give them little bit credit instead of blaming our captain.
OverratedSanity
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We also lost half a day to rain and didn't have 3 gun players.
Gob
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subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Because as captain under him India weren't the best under pressure.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Rahane had a relaxed captaincy style that completely suited the circumstances and lesser expectations. Kohli is a good captain but that sort of rebound wouldn't happen under him. His style is intensity that ups the pressure, great for destroying medium or lower opposition but in high stakes situations India has consistently buckled under him. His record on that score is quite clear.
Sunil1z
International Regular
Why would you post like this considering he voted for Kohli ?
Isn’t it a fact that we lost many close matches under Kohli ? SA 2018, Eng 2018, SA 2022
Sunil1z
International Regular
Infact I would go one step ahead and call Kohli a big time match loser in Tests . India won despite him not because of him.
Guy drops 3 slip catches every Test , gets dismissed by part time spinners and never bothers to play domestic cricket .
Still can’t forget that catch drop of Mccullum which cost India a certain victory in NZ .
Guy drops 3 slip catches every Test , gets dismissed by part time spinners and never bothers to play domestic cricket .
Still can’t forget that catch drop of Mccullum which cost India a certain victory in NZ .
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It's not about votes, but about the kinds of arguments that keep popping up. Mind reading bullshit instead of talking about the cricket is never interesting.
That says absolutely nothing though. Which Indian team from the past would've done better in those games? We barely had a pace attack before now, and our batting has never been solid vs good seam bowling enhanced by bowling friendly conditions. SA 2022 is probably like the one exception, but even then in a lot of cases you could always say X player if fit or Y selections would've turned things around here or there and it would be far more meaningful than this idea that teams collapse to mental pressure.
Sunil1z
International Regular
India would have lost both BG Trophy in 17 as well as 18 if Pujara had batted like Kohli . Guy averages like tailender in half of the important Test series. And his fan army would make us believe that we are winning due to him.
Dropped 4 catches in 2nd Test against Bangladesh and scored 1 runs of 23 balls.
Only thing he should be credited is for developing fast bowling culture .
Dropped 4 catches in 2nd Test against Bangladesh and scored 1 runs of 23 balls.
Only thing he should be credited is for developing fast bowling culture .
Sunil1z
International Regular
As far as overseas performance is concerned India’s 2007-11 team is better than Kohli’s Team
2007 Eng won
2007 Aus should have drawn against a much stronger side if not for Buckenor
2009 NZ won
2010 SA Drew against a very strong side
2011 WI Won despite missing 4 players
We actually underperformed in Kohli’s tenure . Should have atleast drawn in both ENG+ SA.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Also a T20WC, WC and Champions Trophy to brag about.
Oppositions and situations aren't the same, so that's not really a good comparison of anything besides achievements. Fair enough to rate it on that, but then that 2011 side went onto get spanked embarassingly in England and Australia which Kohli hasn't really managed under his tenure.
Sunil1z
International Regular
Was embarrassed after Winning ODI WC which is pinnacle achievement for Asian sides
This team is getting destroyed in every ICC knockout since 2014 . We have underperformed massively in last few years .
ZK$
U19 Cricketer
Kohli probably told the team to show some intent lol.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Losing 4-1 in England and 2-0 to NZ is a fair spanking.
Only if you were blind I guess.