*Official* Australia vs West Indies - Frank Worrell Trophy 2022

[Starfighter]

What should it be defined as then?

 

[Shady Slim]

What should it be defined as then?

well not a catch, he tosses it away prematurely is the thing

 

[Starfighter]

well not a catch, he tosses it away prematurely is the thing

You'd have to throw out (so to speak) dozens of catches taken in recent history.

 

[Shady Slim]

You'd have to throw out (so to speak) dozens of catches taken in recent history.

i think that one is particularly egregious, such that it's not borderline like the many you're talking about

 

[Starfighter]

i think that one is particularly egregious, such that it's not borderline like the many you're talking about

I think your face is egregious, and not borderline like the many that have been talked about.

 

[TheJediBrah]

well not a catch, he tosses it away prematurely is the thing

If that's actually the rule it's laughable and should be changed ASAP. He was clearly in control

 

[Shady Slim]

If that's actually the rule it's laughable and should be changed ASAP. He was clearly in control

how often do ya see the ball pop out on impact with the ground though for a motion catch

next time you see someone take a flying screamer they might as well toss it away before they land given they were clearly in control of the ball on their way to the ground right

 

[Burgey]

not that it would've mattered but this isn't a catch

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=551142663129806

Agree with this

 

[TheJediBrah]

how often do ya see the ball pop out on impact with the ground though for a motion catch

next time you see someone take a flying screamer they might as well toss it away before they land given they were clearly in control of the ball on their way to the ground right

You think throwing the ball away like that is easier than just holding onto it? **** me the skill it would take to release it like that, that quickly is ridiculous

I see your point though, if that was a catch on the boundary it wouldn't be out, otherwise every boundary save that gets thrown back in would be a catch

 

[ataraxia]

not that it would've mattered but this isn't a catch

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=551142663129806

Agreed, the Khawaja clearly touched the ground before being caught

 

[Shady Slim]

Agree with this

^ he gets it

You think throwing the ball away like that is easier than just holding onto it? **** me the skill it would take to release it like that, that quickly is ridiculous

I see your point though, if that was a catch on the boundary it wouldn't be out, otherwise every boundary save that gets thrown back in would be a catch

yea like i said ftr i absolutely reckon if he didn't yeet it away he would have held it, but he didn't is the thing. interesting point you raise as re the boundary catch and yanno what you're entirely right - hadn't thought of that myself hehe

 

[SteveNZ]

Isn't the rule that you have to have control over the further disposal of the ball to constitute a catch? Green clearly has that.

33.3 Making a catch

The act of making a catch shall start from the time when the ball first comes into contact with a fielder’s person and shall end when a fielder obtains complete control over both the ball and his/her own movement.

I reckon it looked shaky, agreed, but it's a catch in the eyes of the law book from what I can see

 

[TheJediBrah]

Isn't the rule that you have to have control over the further disposal of the ball to constitute a catch? Green clearly has that.

33.3 Making a catch

The act of making a catch shall start from the time when the ball first comes into contact with a fielder’s person and shall end when a fielder obtains complete control over both the ball and his/her own movement.

I reckon it looked shaky, agreed, but it's a catch in the eyes of the law book from what I can see

If that's the case though, then every time a fielder catches a ball on the boundary and has to throw it back in to save the boundary it should actually be out

 

[SteveNZ]

If that's the case though, then every time a fielder catches a ball on the boundary and has to throw it back in to save the boundary it should actually be out

Then they wouldn't be in complete control of their movement?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Then they wouldn't be in complete control of their movement?

They would be in control of their movement, the movement would just be moving them over the rope and make it 6

 

[Shady Slim]

They would be in control of their movement, the movement would just be moving them over the rope and make it 6

and we're talking seconds, milliseconds, here, like, between green still tumbling and green having stabilised enough for you to say for certain he's master of the domain here, but imho it's just too early

 

[TheJediBrah]

and we're talking seconds, milliseconds, here, like, between green still tumbling and green having stabilised enough for you to say for certain he's master of the domain here, but imho it's just too early

This is where I think you're wrong. There's no way he's not in complete control to be able to release the ball like that. You can't do that and at the same time not have been able to do pretty much anything you wanted with the ball

 

[WICFan]

Wouldn't bank on Australia being desperate to have them back soon for Tests after this

Looks like they tried to rearrange it.

West Indies' next Test cricket will come on tours of Zimbabwe and South Africa in early 2023. They are then due back in Australia in a little over 12 months' time due a quirk of the next World Test Championship cycle, which has seen them paired together again with no other spot on the calendar to try and space out the series a little more. CA had tried to find another window to avoid back-to-back summers with the same opposition but it wasn't possible.

 

[Jarquis]

Then they wouldn't be in complete control of their movement?

But Green is there? He’s literally still falling to the ground

 

[Burgey]

and we're talking seconds, milliseconds, here, like, between green still tumbling and green having stabilised enough for you to say for certain he's master of the domain here, but imho it's just too early

These guys practice taking like 100 catches in the cordon a week, probably more