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*Official* Quarter Finals Thread
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dontcloseyoureyes
BARNES OUT
Give Tuchel a boatload of money for the next 4 years.
Burgey
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James
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Would be harsh on him , it wasn't a Beckham brain explosion type moment.
Just saw this on the BBC live coverage, obviously taking it hard which is hardily surprising
FT: England 1-2 France
Juliette Ferrington
BBC Radio 5 live at Al Bayt Stadium
Harry Kane's team-mates politely asked for the camera operators to move away from him because he was inconsolable. Jude Bellingham had his shirt over his face and was lying on his back before he got to his feet. When Rashford's free-kick went over Harry Kane looked to the sky.
dontcloseyoureyes
BARNES OUT
What big picture? He has the team to win, doesn't pick it, and doesn't win. There's nothing else to say.
Burgey
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Nah, the English press will still find a way to blame a black bloke
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
The big picture that before Southgate England were serial under performers at world tournaments for 50 years.
Kenneth Viljoen
International Debutant
Thing is , there is a bit of a streak going on in World Cups which is the greatest streak in my opinion because it's happened through different eras without fail , every coach that has won the FIFA World Cup has been born in the country that won the world cup . From 1930-2018 ...Technically the Moroccan coach can break this record as he was born in France .
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Red_Ink_Squid
Global Moderator
I take it you didn't watch their 0-0 in the group stage...
Red_Ink_Squid
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But dang that hurts. Looked the better side, first French goal shouldn't have stood, we had plenty of chances.
Southgate pulling Saka and Foden off just bizarre though.
Southgate pulling Saka and Foden off just bizarre though.
dontcloseyoureyes
BARNES OUT
How has that changed, exactly?
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Red_Ink_Squid
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We were serial underperformers for 50 years pre Southgate. He's taken us to 3 tournaments and we haven't underperformed at any of them. That's a change.
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
SF at the World Cup and final at the Euro’s is hardly underperforming. Today England came up against the one team I think is on their level and they came off second best, it happens. If they’d been on the other side of the draw I think they’d have gone all the way to the final.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Pre-Southgate you were knocked out of the Euros by Iceland and failed to get out of a group with Costa Rica and Uruguay in it.
Kenneth Viljoen
International Debutant
It depends on how you view underperformance , I mean there is different variations of it right ? Like there is one where you completely don't show up , get knocked out in the group stage like a France in 2002 , then there is one where you consistently put yourself/team in positions to win a trophy but for some reason or another you fall short ...I think this England side under Southgate falls under the latter ...
Ifs and Buts just don't cut it especially in tournaments that happen every four years . In Cricket we have India post Dhoni captain era who consistently make semi finals and finals of major tournaments but fall short of winning, I think there is a degree of underperformance to that .