Virender Sehwag vs Inzamam-ul-Haq

[subshakerz]

I’ve always felt that if he played against the WI 80s juggernaut he would probably have played one of the greatest innings of all time but end up averaging 32 against them

At home, maybe. In WI his chance of reaching a ton would be nil.

 

[BazBall21]

At home, maybe. In WI his chance of reaching a ton would be nil.

Wouldn’t score a run against Marshall. He’d enjoy the challenge against Holding.

 

[h_hurricane]

At home, maybe. In WI his chance of reaching a ton would be nil.

Kapil scored a run a ball hundred against the great WI attack, and another near one at a similar pace, in WI. Sehwag was a much better batsman than him. Even if he was a opener, he would still find pitches where he would run amok. Sehwag had a reputation of making the strength of bowling line up a non factor when he got going.

Your weird assumptions on the players who you don't rate eradicates the possibility of having any meaningful conversations involving you.

 

[subshakerz]

Kapil scored a run a ball hundred against the great WI attack, and another near one at a similar pace, in WI. Sehwag was a much better batsman than him. Even if he was a opener, he would still find pitches where he would run amok. Sehwag had a reputation of making the strength of bowling line up a non factor when he got going.

Your weird assumptions on the players who you don't rate eradicates the possibility of having any meaningful conversations involving you.

This is poor logic. It's one thing for someone to swing away a ton at 7/8 versus scoring a ton against the new ball. You know that.

Sehwag has 1 ton as opener in 17 matches in Eng, SA and NZ, and that too on a dead drawn pitch against a newbie attack in England in 2002.

The idea of him swinging away a ton against Marshall, Garner, Holding and Roberts on 80s WI pitches is silly (in India, sure). He would be hard pressed to last a session.

 

[duffer]

Sehwag 2003-2010 (his peak years) as opener only
72 tests
6,753 runs
19 centuries
57.22 average
84.13 strike rate

Yeah, he fell off the cliff during the later phase of his career but at his peak he was a phenom. Made huge scores and made them rapidly.

 

[duffer]

Some innings.

Was at this match and he was just imperious. Incredible knock

 

[h_hurricane]

This is poor logic. It's one thing for someone to swing away a ton at 7/8 versus scoring a ton against the new ball. You know that.

Sehwag has 1 ton as opener in 17 matches in Eng, SA and NZ, and that too on a dead drawn pitch against a newbie attack in England in 2002.

The idea of him swinging away a ton against Marshall, Garner, Holding and Roberts on 80s WI pitches is silly (in India, sure). He would be hard pressed to last a session.

This is ridiculous. WI pitches were not green mambas like you see in Eng, NZ and SA. Sehwag didn't have as much problems with pace and bounce, until his eyes went off. He may not last beyond a session or two against that lineup, but that is good enough for him to ton up on a few occasions. He is the most destructive opener of all time, above even the likes of Trumper, though not as adaptable.

Of course, I am not discounting the probability of him having scores of failures which will bring his overall averages down. But you saying he will never score a ton is keeping up with your reputation of coming up with a dumb post and following up with a series of similar dumb posts.

 

[h_hurricane]

Sehwag in fact averages more against Mcgrath or Gillespie than against Tuffee. He averages more against Warne or Murali than Vettori. Anderson did better against him than Steyn. All driven by playing conditions, but that is exactly the point. He had glaring weakness in some conditions, but also strengths which came in handy against some of the best of all time.

I am far more willing to buy that he will never score a hundred against Hadlee or Chatfield in NZ or against Alderman in Eng in a neutral match. In fact I believe that will be the case.

 

[Sunil1z]

Why do people waste their time debating with @subshakerz ?
He speaks nonsense most of the times . Sehwag was only World XI batsman who scored runs against Australia in 2005 . In the same match Inzamam scored 0 and 1 against McGrath (Attached scorecard in screenshot) .

If you believe Inzamam would score against Marshall than Sehwag, I have only advice for you : Go and see a psychiatrist.

Inzamam ran away from facing McGrath in Australia by averaging 0.5 in 4 innings in 2004/05 and people think he has better chance than Sehwag against Marshall ?

 

[_00_deathscar]

If Sehwag played in the 90s as an opener it would likely take 4-7 points off his average. I don't see him doing well in Australia and WI as he did in the 2000s with McGrath and Ambrose around.

Ambrose couldn't take care of 90s Indian batting line up, and you think he'd take care of Sehwag? You're off your meds again.

 

[subshakerz]

Why do people waste their time debating with @subshakerz ?
He speaks nonsense most of the times . Sehwag was only World XI batsman who scored runs against Australia in 2005 . In the same match Inzamam scored 0 and 1 against McGrath (Attached scorecard in screenshot) .

If you believe Inzamam would score against Marshall than Sehwag, I have only advice for you : Go and see a psychiatrist.

Inzamam ran away from facing McGrath in Australia by averaging 0.5 in 4 innings in 2004/05 and people think he has better chance than Sehwag against Marshall ?

Calm down, my friend. I am not a big Inzi supporter either.

Inzi also was weak against high quality attacks away from home, just not as much as Sehwag.

Inzi could score tons against peak Ambrose and Bishop and McWarne away from home. But he wasn't good enough to score against them consistently.

 

[Sunil1z]

Sehwag was the only Indian batsman to score against McGrath/Gillespie/Warne in 04/05 . But he won’t stand a chance against Marshall . If Pakistan had a batsman like Sehwag in last 30 years , they wouldn’t have minnows like record against Aus/SA.( Only WI have worse record since 90s)

Anwar is better than Sehwag, Inzamam is better than Sehwag and your team performance against Australia and SA is worse than NZ.

 

[subshakerz]

This is ridiculous. WI pitches were not green mambas like you see in Eng, NZ and SA. Sehwag didn't have as much problems with pace and bounce, until his eyes went off. He may not last beyond a session or two against that lineup, but that is good enough for him to ton up on a few occasions. He is the most destructive opener of all time, above even the likes of Trumper, though not as adaptable.

Based on reports, pitches in the 80s were pace friendly and offered movement.

It's not like every match he played in NZ and SA were green mambas. 2009 pitches in NZ were pretty flat yet he never tonned up.

Point being, your confidence in him scoring tons away against the WI quartet is entirely unfounded.

 

[subshakerz]

Anwar is better than Sehwag, Inzamam is better than Sehwag and your team performance against Australia and SA is worse than NZ.

No, yes and yes.

 

[Sunil1z]

Calm down, my friend. I am not a big Inzi supporter either.

Inzi also was weak against high quality attacks away from home, just not as much as Sehwag.

Inzi could score tons against peak Ambrose and Bishop and McWarne away from home. But he wasn't good enough to score against them consistently.

Forget away from home , Inzamam was walking wicket against Aus and SA everywhere. Who cares if he scored some runs against Eng and NZ in 90s .

 

[TheGreatest]

Inzamam wasn't a success in Australia. And also quite ordinary against quality bowling of Australia and South Africa. Sehwag is miles ahead of him.

 

[Sunil1z]

Inzamam averaged 0.5 against McGrath in Aus in 04/05 and ran away in 2 tests faking injury .
Sehwag scored 80 runs in 2 innings against McGrath as an opener ( Got dismissed by spinner in both innings not even fast bowler )
But guess what Sehwag would have struggled against Marshall and Inzamam would have done better.

 

[h_hurricane]

Based on reports, pitches in the 80s were pace friendly and offered movement.

It's not like every match he played in NZ and SA were green mambas. 2009 pitches in NZ were pretty flat yet he never tonned up.

Point being, your confidence in him scoring tons away against the WI quartet is entirely unfounded.

Well, nearly every pitch offers some movement earlier on. Even the ones in India and Pakistan if you believe. There won't be massive deviation off the pitch which would cause issues to someone with a flawed technique like Sehwag.

Also, if you think that Sehwag gets 15-20 innings against that lineup across 2 series, him scoring 2 hundreds against them isn't exactly a hot take. There would be plenty of low scores too, and he may average 35-40 against them, which is pretty good. All assumptions of course, but it is in line with his career reputation. On the other hand, your confidence that he will never get a substantial score is lolworthy.

 

[TheGreatest]

Inzamam averaged 0.5 against McGrath in Aus in 04/05 and ran away in 2 tests faking injury .
Sehwag scored 80 runs in 2 innings against McGrath as an opener ( Got dismissed by spinner in both innings not even fast bowler )
But guess what Sehwag would have struggled against Marshall and Inzamam would have done better.

No way Inzamam would have scored against Marshall and company. Sehwag was awesome, cutting and pulling anything short pitched on any wicket. Inzamam lacked this quality.

 

[subshakerz]

Forget away from home , Inzamam was walking wicket against Aus and SA everywhere. Who cares if he scored some runs against Eng and NZ in 90s .

And Sehwag was a worse walking wicket in Eng NZ and SA. He never faced McGrath in Australia unlike Inzi. The guy was the poster child of flat track bullies, Inzi wasn't that.