Test batsmen and bowlers peaks. Criteria: At least 5 years and at least 40 innings

[TheJediBrah]

Indian brahs always so pressed to try and discredit Ponting

It's something to do with the 2007-08 series isn't it

 

[trundler]

That's not a slippery slope, you're just annoyed I pointed out rightly that Ponting bashed sub-standard attacks too.

No. It's not the same at all. 2000s Bangladesh and Zimbabwe were on another plane of rankness. And if you start nitpicking attacks from top 8 teams then you'd have no Kallis runs left either.

 

[OverratedSanity]

Indian brahs always so pressed to try and discredit Ponting

It's something to do with the 2007-08 series isn't it

The one series where India's bowlers actually bowled decently in Australia for once with Pathan and RP singh bowling good spells.

Oh and what do you know Ponting averaged 38. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ? ? ?

 

[Sunil1z]

Indian brahs always so pressed to try and discredit Ponting

It's something to do with the 2007-08 series isn't it

That is why most of us rate Ponting higher than Dravid ?

Australians also know how to play victim card . ?

 

[TheJediBrah]

The one series where India's bowlers actually bowled decently in Australia for once with Pathan and RP singh bowling good spells.

Oh and what do you know Ponting averaged 38. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ? ? ?

Not what I was getting at

I figured something to do with the controversy surrounding the series, Sydney test in particular. Can't recall if Ponting had a lot to do with it directly though

 

[TheJediBrah]

No. It's not the same at all. 2000s Bangladesh and Zimbabwe were on another plane of rankness. And if you start nitpicking attacks from top 8 teams then you'd have no Kallis runs left either.

Reminds me of when someone was trying to argue that Warne's bowling against England was the equivalent of bowling to Bangladesh & Zimbabwe because they were "bad at playing spin"

 

[trundler]

Reminds me of when someone was trying to argue that Warne's bowling against England was the equivalent of bowling to Bangladesh & Zimbabwe because they were "bad at playing spin"

We all know it was Migara c'mon

 

[srbhkshk]

Not what I was getting at

I figured something to do with the controversy surrounding the series, Sydney test in particular. Can't recall if Ponting had a lot to do with it directly though

Fairly sure Bucknor is 90% of the Villain from that series.

I remember going to buy some milk around that time early in the morning and some boys were playing cricket in a field, one of them was hit on leg roughly a meter outside the leg stump, the bowler being the bowler appealed anyway and the acting umpire said "Today I shall be Bucknor" and gave him out.

 

[Sunil1z]

Yeah whatever happened in 07-08 is mostly forgotten. Ponting is highly respected in Indian cricket circles now. In fact BCCI approached Punter to be India’s coach before Dravid .

 

[TheJediBrah]

We all know it was Migara c'mon

It actually wasn't but usually a fair assumption

 

[trundler]

It actually wasn't but usually a fair assumption

Nah I remember him doing it in an argument against Stephen too. What a showdown that was.

 

[subshakerz]

If Sehwag decided to bat at a strike rate of 40 instead of 80, his average wouldn’t improve. It would actually drop.

But if he batted with an SR of 60 rather than 80, it would improve. Especially could probably score more in Eng/SA/NZ. A slight curbing of his aggressive instincts rather than brainless hit mode all the time would have made him a better bat.

Won't forget that first test in SA in 2011 when he slashed wildly outside off to a Steyn outswinger in the first over and got caught at third man on a greentop. There really was no excuse for that Afirdi-level recklessness.

 

[Burgey]

Fairly sure Bucknor is 90% of the Villain from that series.

I remember going to buy some milk around that time early in the morning and some boys were playing cricket in a field, one of them was hit on leg roughly a meter outside the leg stump, the bowler being the bowler appealed anyway and the acting umpire said "Today I shall be Bucknor" and gave him out.

Did the batsman then say "Today I shall be India and threaten to go home"?

 

[subshakerz]

If you compared peaks, the difference between Kallis and Ponting would be less than if you compared overall careers.

Ponting until his peak began was already a much better and more accomplished bat than Kallis.

 

[OverratedSanity]

If Sehwag decided to bat at a strike rate of 40 instead of 80, his average wouldn’t improve. It would actually drop.

Well you're just saying he was a limited batsman then. That's a weakness.

 

[srbhkshk]

Did the batsman then say "Today I shall be India and threaten to go home"?

I had moved on by then so I wouldn't know, but I presume he would have tried to kill the umpire with the bat. In that sense Bucknor did get off somewhat lightly.

 

[Burgey]

Effigies R Us did very well out of their 2008 Bucknor range, iirc.

 

[TheJediBrah]

But if he batted with an SR of 60 rather than 80, it would improve. Especially could probably score more in Eng/SA/NZ. A slight curbing of his aggressive instincts rather than brainless hit mode all the time would have made him a better bat.

I don't know if that's true. Same with Ponting. If Ponting played with Kallis' strike rate I'm not convinced his average would be higher.

 

[Sunil1z]

I don't know if that's true. Same with Ponting. If Ponting played with Kallis' strike rate I'm not convinced his average would be higher.

Actually Ponting did curb his attacking instinct in India during 2008/10 tour.
His 1st century in India in 08 was his slowest career century iirc .

 

[subshakerz]

I don't know if that's true. Same with Ponting. If Ponting played with Kallis' strike rate I'm not convinced his average would be higher.

SR of 60 is still high but not dangerously high. It would allow Sehwag to be aggressive most of the time but be able to restrict himself when need be.