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Unlucky in their time.
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Adorable Asshole
International Regular
Kapil Dev also. If he had played from the 90s onward, he would have been hailed as the greatest all rounder off his time. But since he had to compete with Imran, Botham and Hadlee, he was never fully appreciated.
Burgey
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Pat Rafter a little like this, only he jagged the two US Opens. Made finals at the Aus and Wimbledon and semi finals at the French. By post-Newcombe Aus standards, he would have been held in huge regard had he won just one other non-US major.
Dendarii
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He'd have a window in the early 90s, but mid 90s onwards he'd be competing with Kallis and Pollock.
trundler
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And if he'd come around before he did he'd have been behind Greig or earlier Sobers. Or Miller before them.
Adorable Asshole
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Kapil was better than them chokers.
Red_Ink_Squid
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In a different timeline he may have had some friends in Singapore.
BoyBrumby
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I'm unashamedly biased, but Nigel Winterburn, internationally at least, has a case.
Had a very successful club career for the Arse. Since you asked he won 3 titles, 2 FA Cups a League Cup and a Cup-Winners Cup. ?
However 2 England caps was scant reward for a left-back of his undoubted class. Had the misfortune of the peak of his career coinciding with initially Kenny Samson (who he replaced at the Gooners but not for England), and then Stuart Pearce and Graeme Le Saux.
He also played at the same time as Tony Dorigo (an Australian with an Italian father who somehow found himself playing for England) who was inexplicably preferred as Pearce's deputy in the England squads of Italia 90 & Euro 92. We'll draw a veil over USA 94, but come Euro 96 he was omitted for Phil "****ing" Neville.
Had a very successful club career for the Arse. Since you asked he won 3 titles, 2 FA Cups a League Cup and a Cup-Winners Cup. ?
However 2 England caps was scant reward for a left-back of his undoubted class. Had the misfortune of the peak of his career coinciding with initially Kenny Samson (who he replaced at the Gooners but not for England), and then Stuart Pearce and Graeme Le Saux.
He also played at the same time as Tony Dorigo (an Australian with an Italian father who somehow found himself playing for England) who was inexplicably preferred as Pearce's deputy in the England squads of Italia 90 & Euro 92. We'll draw a veil over USA 94, but come Euro 96 he was omitted for Phil "****ing" Neville.
Lillian Thomson
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Derek Statham was one who was shafted by Kenny Samson existing. Still debatable who was the better player, especially in their early days.
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Karpov wasn't so good that only being world champion for ten years was unfortunate. Caruana, meh.
srbhkshk
International Captain
Karpov's matches against Kasparov were extremely close, there was little to separate the two but he isn't really considered anywhere near as good. Caruana I just mentioned because I think he is the strongest of a whole generation denied by Magnus.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
It's not, ftr. Fails the Hawking test.
srbhkshk
International Captain
What's the Hawking test?
(Guessing something can't be a sport if Hawking could have managed to do it?)
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Pretty much, yeah. If the famously MND-stricken Prof Hawking could defeat one in a competition in the discipline it must be classed as a purely mental pastime, so cannot be correctly classified as a sport.
Darts & snooker: sports; chess & poker: not sports.
sledger
Spanish_Vicente
Dixon, Bould and Keown all good enough to play for England way more than they did too tbh
And Ray Parlour, who I maintain is genuinely one of the most underrated premiership players ever
srbhkshk
International Captain
hmm, they just need to make the pieces heavy and it'll get there.