subshakerz
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This is very true. Imran's peak was 48 tests whereas Steyn's peak was something like nearly 70 tests. Sadly Imran's shin injury cut his peak years shorter.
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Dale Steyn vs Imran khan
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subshakerz
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I loved watching Steyn bowl but he would be manhandled too often which I found disappointing for a bowler of his caliber.
Having said that, he won matches in more countries than anyone I think.
Having said that, he won matches in more countries than anyone I think.
subshakerz
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Their away records are fairly similar in the period Imran was a specialist bowler. I would say Steyn was a bit lacking in England but made up for it in the SC, while Imran was tops against WI.
_00_deathscar
International Regular
This.
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Steyn is rated much higher by his peers than Imran is by his.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Who was Steyn's competition from 2007 to 2014? Brett Lee, Mitch, Anderson and Harris.
Who was Imran's competition from 80 to 88? Lillee, Garner, Holding, Croft, Marshall and Hadlee.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Is this serious? 60 percent of his career was on the best pace bowling pitches in the world.
subshakerz
Hall of Fame Member
Steyn's owes Imran credit for making reverse swing a thing
TheJediBrah
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If Imran was South African in the 00s he'd have had the career of Monde Zondeki
subshakerz
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Here is where I feel stats dont measure up to actual match reality. A ridiculous SR like Steyn's is offset by his high ER, so its not a direct advantage that posters are making it, and a possible disadvantage. Steyn can win you a match in a session or lose you it.
A bowler who has a higher but still reasonable SR but keeps his ER down to me is more valuable because test matches can allow bowlers the time to take wickets while not leaking runs. So it's worth waiting a few extra deliveries.
One reason I rate Marshall so highly is that he had the trifecta of super low average, low ER and low SR.
h_hurricane
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Imran didn't have much competition in that era either. No one else treated the ball with such affection.
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Nah no excuses. Marshall and Lillee are still rated in the top tier with Steyn.
TheJediBrah
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Bowlers with lower economy get you more wickets at the other end too
Though you could say that about any really good bowler
subshakerz
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Yes, and on the flipside, a bowler with a high ER may affect the momentum of the other bowlers assuming they are not class.
TheJediBrah
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One of the main things I find that stats0obsessed cricket tragics on forums like this tend to underestimate the most is the effect of tight bowling and, conversely, aggressive batting. You can't put a number on the effect a Sehwag innings has on each side or the match in general just by looking at his average and strike rate.
subshakerz
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While I agree that aggressive batting makes for better batsmen all other factors equal, I would say that in a real match situation, I would prefer two batsmen at the crease batting at 3.5 a over rather than one batsman batting at 5 an over and the other at 2.5. The former tends to make for better partnerships.