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Group 1 (Afghanistan, Australia, England, New Zealand, Sri Lanka, Ireland)

Spark

Spark

Global Moderator
Prince EWS said:
I wouldn't go that far. We can't rule out convenient washouts, Sri Lanka beating England or Australia beating Afghanistan by like 120 runs. All could still see Australia qualify. Even Ireland beating NZ isn't completely fanciful even though it's obviously unlikely.
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Yeah Australia's best hope is probably to hope that the stars align for the attack and they shoot out Afghanistan for like 60 or something and chase it down in four overs.
 
thierry henry

thierry henry

International Coach
tbf we’ve all rightfully been calling for Southee’s demotion down the batting order for years. I think him and Sodhi are at a pretty similar level but yeah, Southee more proven at hitting dingers I guess
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Spark said:
Yeah Australia's best hope is probably to hope that the stars align for the attack and they shoot out Afghanistan for like 60 or something and chase it down in four overs.
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NRR would be improved a lot more if they actually batted first and made 200 before shooting Afghanistan out for 60. It's not averaged out per match, it's just aggregated. Four overs for 60 on the batting ledger makes a smaller difference than 20 overs for 200.

I actually think Australia's biggest hopes ahead of that may be:
1. Rain in either NZ v Ireland or Sri Lanka v England
2. Sri Lanka beat England
 
Spark

Spark

Global Moderator
Burgey said:
Stop backing away Ffs and turn it past short fine leg. Bizarre batting
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It's bizarre because the only shot that opens up is the most difficult shot imaginable, the inside-out drive over mid-off with your momentum going the other way.
 
Moss

Moss

International Captain
Taking the game deep and banking on the hitters to come good, if the openers fail - not a reliable gameplan as NZ found out today
 
Spark

Spark

Global Moderator
Prince EWS said:
NRR would be improved a lot more if they actually batted first and made 200 before shooting Afghanistan out for 60. It's not averaged out per match, it's just aggregated. Four overs for 60 on the batting ledger makes a smaller difference than 20 overs for 200.

I actually think Australia's biggest hopes ahead of that may be:
1. Rain in either NZ v Ireland or Sri Lanka v England
2. Sri Lanka beat England
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Yeah but if you bowl a side out doesn't it count as 20 overs bowled?
 
Burgey

Burgey

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Spark said:
It's bizarre because the only shot that opens up is the most difficult shot imaginable, the inside-out drive over mid-off with your momentum going the other way.
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Yeah, particularly for a number eight.
 
Prince EWS

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Spark said:
Yeah but if you bowl a side out doesn't it count as 20 overs bowled?
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Yeah it does count as 20 overs bowled, but that happens in either situation. Adding 20 overs of batting and 200 overs of runs is going to have a bigger impact on the other side of the ledger than 60 in 4 overs or whatever. You don't want the Afghanistan game to only count for 9% of your batting instead of 20%. It's gonna count for ~20% of your bowling either way.
 
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