Top 5 test allrounders of the last 30 years.

[Xix2565]

Actually rethinking as the Pollock vote is more based on how he looked as a batsman than actual achievements where I think he is at similar level to Ashwin.

Runs per innings comparison between them shows a remarkably similar output in terms of batting (as of now).

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Who are the top 5 allrounders of the last 30 years (post the big 4 of the '80s). Jacques Kallis is a given unless you have rocks in your head, so please pick four more.

This is CW Cricket Chat. Kallis should have been an option, not a given.

 

[Prince EWS]

I didn't realise how highly Stokes was rated here tbh.

 

[StephenZA]

People ignoring Brian MacMillan a travesty...

 

[trundler]

People ignoring Brian MacMillan a travesty...

Definitely better than Holder.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

The others are either not ATG or not all-rounders.

Who do you not consider allrounders?
Cronje I guess, and...?

 

[trundler]

I didn't realise how highly Stokes was rated here tbh.

I'm more surprised by Cairns coming in 5th.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Who do you not consider allrounders?
Cronje I guess, and...?

I'd guess he means Ashwin.

 

[Prince EWS]

I'm more surprised by Cairns coming in 5th.

Who would you have expected?

 

[trundler]

Who would you have expected?

I would've expected him ahead of Jadeja.

 

[subshakerz]

I didn't realise how highly Stokes was rated here tbh.

Stokes is a genuine no.6 and gives you a couple wickets a match.

 

[trundler]

Stokes is a genuine no.6 and gives you a couple wickets a match.

Wins matches which is what you expect from your all rounder.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

I'd guess he means Ashwin.

He's got 5 test 100s in 86 tests. Hadlee got 2 in 86. I almost included Vernon Philander (highest score of 74), but then decided against it as would probably need to then include Streak, Vaas, Nash, Bresnan, Swann, Johnson,etc. who were basically useful tailenders. Will be interesting to see if Marco Jansen or Kyle Jamieson develop into allrounders.


Also decided against the likes of Azhar Mahmoud, Klusener, Razzaq, Dwayne Bravo, etc as the list would get too long.

 

[Burgey]

Went Flintoff, Al Hasan, Stokes, Jadeja.

Sort of thought of Pollock more as a bowler who batted a bit because he usually came in so low rather than a genuine A/R. Probably doing him a disservice.

 

[Burgey]

Wins matches which is what you expect from your all rounder.

Yeah he's sort of the closest current thing to one of the 80s gun all rounders, especially in the way he takes it on with the bat.

 

[Dendarii]

Sort of thought of Pollock more as a bowler who batted a bit because he usually came in so low rather than a genuine A/R. Probably doing him a disservice.

Pollock tended to come in so low because South Africa had so many other bowlers who could also bat. If he hadn't played so much with the likes of McMillan, Klusener, Boje, and Symcox then he probably would have batted higher more often.

 

[Burgey]

Yeah I'm sure that's right, it just sort of led me rate his batting more Hadlee than Botham or Kapil, when his numbers are better than that, on reflection.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

He's got 5 test 100s in 86 tests. Hadlee got 2 in 86. I almost included Vernon Philander (highest score of 74), but then decided against it as would probably need to then include Streak, Vaas, Nash, Bresnan, Swann, Johnson,etc. who were basically useful tailenders. Will be interesting to see if Marco Jansen or Kyle Jamieson develop into allrounders.


Also decided against the likes of Azhar Mahmoud, Klusener, Razzaq, Dwayne Bravo, etc as the list would get too long.

There's a case for him for sure, but it looks from the poll like CW doesn't rate him as an all rounder. If the question was 'pick the 5 best players' then I'm sure he'd have a lot more votes.

Pollock smashing the vote despite being the same sort of tier of batting though is a bit inconsistent.

 

[trundler]

Ashwin definitely deserves more respect too. Can't be far off Pollock. He's less consistent but has incredible centuries under his belt.

I actually didn't vote for Pollock at first and had Jadeja instead but it felt too harsh on Pollock as a player. Jadeja and is definitely a more rounded all rounder.

Pollock smashing the vote despite being the same sort of tier of batting though is a bit inconsistent.

Is a decent #8 less of an rounder than someone who takes 1.5 wickets per match? ?

 

[Coronis]

Went Flintoff, Al Hasan, Stokes, Jadeja.

Sort of thought of Pollock more as a bowler who batted a bit because he usually came in so low rather than a genuine A/R. Probably doing him a disservice.

Little surprised considering your recent Shakib bashing.