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Who is the worst player of all time that would be selected in every XI in history?

Slifer

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From my observations, most XIs usually have Bradman, Sobers, Sachin, Hobbs, Gilchrist and Warne. The 'worse' player among those 6, imo, would probably be between Warne and Gilchrist. I honestly can't choose between Warne and Gilchrist as to who the worse cricketer was....
 
Athlai

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Slifer said:
From my observations, most XIs usually have Bradman, Sobers, Sachin, Hobbs, Gilchrist and Warne. The 'worse' player among those 6, imo, would probably be between Warne and Gilchrist. I honestly can't choose between Warne and Gilchrist as to who the worse cricketer was....
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Bruh, it's playing XI. So it has to have actually literally taken the field at some point. AU 00s, WI 80s etc.
 
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Colin Cowdrey springs to mind if we're doing guys that were decent everywhere. Cowdrey probably better than Martyn anyway.
 
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Athlai said:
Haha yeah makes it much more of a puzzle. I also reckon Ashwin/Jadeja do as well. Plenty of decent spin allrounders out there get shafted because of those two.
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A spin bowling all rounder isn't making it past Sobers + Gibbs/Ramadhin and Valentine either IMO.
 
Athlai

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GIMH said:
Watson doesn’t make the England middle order at that stage. Not even close IMO
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Which era are you talking about? Normally I'd assume someone talking about an ATG England XI it'd be Hobbs, but uhh... you mean the Ashes 2005 dont you
 
GIMH

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Athlai said:
Which era are you talking about? Normally I'd assume someone talking about an ATG England XI it'd be Hobbs, but uhh... you mean the Ashes 2005 dont you
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I’ve just skimmed the thread so maybe I have the concept wrong but I assumed we were talking circa 09-10ish given the Katich talk.
 
Athlai

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Okay to help some people, these are the greatest XIs of all time according to subshakerz list from earlier this year, and it's a fine list. What we are looking for here is a player (from any era) that would be selected in ALL these teams. But of course Bradman or Marshall or Imran Khan would make any team better. So who is the worst player that could feasibly make them all?

Leading contenders so far are Martyn/Ranatunga/Stokes/Shakib



Bradman's Invincibles (1940s)
Main players: Morris, Bradman, Harvey, Miller, Lindwall, Bill Johnston, Barnes, Tallon

Hutton's England (mid-1950s)
Main players: Hutton, Peter May, Cowdrey, Trueman, Stratham, Laker, Tyson

Benaud's Australia (Late 1950s)
Main players: Benaud, Bobby Simpson, Neil Harvey, Davidson, Mckenzie

Worrell's WI (Early-1960s)
Main players: Hunte, Kanhai, Sobers, Worrell, Griffith, Hall, Gibbs

South Africa (late 60s)
Main players: Graeme Pollock, Peter Pollock, Goodard, Barlow, Proctor, Richards

Chappell's Australia (mid-1970s)
Main players: Chappell brothers, Doug Walters, Lillee, Marsh, Thomo

LLoyd's WI (late 70s)
Main players: Greenidge, Haynes, Viv, Lloyd, pace quartet

Imran's Pakistan (late 80s)
Main players: Javed, Saleem Malik, Imran, Wasim, Qadir

Cronje's SA (late 90s)
Main players: Kirsten, Gibbs, Cullinan, Kallis, Cronje, Donald, Pollock

Akram's Pakistan (mid-late 90s)
Main players: Anwar, Inzi, Yousuf, Moin, Akram, Waqar, Saqlain, Mushtaq

Waugh's Australia (Early 2000s)
Main players: Hayden, Ponting, Waugh brothers, Gilchrist, Warne, McGrath, Gillespie

Vaughn's England (Mid-2000s)
Main players: Vaughn, Bell, Trescothick, KP, Flintoff, Simon Jones, Harmison

Dhoni's India (late 2000s)
Main players: Sehwag, Sachin, Dravid, Laxman, Dhoni, Harbajan, Zaheer

Strauss's England (Early 2010s)
Main players: Cook, Pietersen, Strauss, Trott, Prior, Swann, Anderson, Broad

Smith's SA (Early 2010s)
Main players: Smith, ABD, Amla, Kallis, Morkel, Steyn, Philander

Kohli's India (Late 2010s)
Main players: Kohli, Pujara, Rahane, Bumrah, Ashwin, Shami, Jadeja, Ishant

Williamson's NZ (Early 2020s)
Main players: Williamson, Taylor, Jamieson, Boult, Southee
 
Athlai

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The best opening pair in history is Sutcliffe and Hobbs, but the second best is Greenidge Haynes or Hayden Langer

I reckon theres a bloke out there who is a worse batsman than Martyn that could open the batting ahead of Langer, and make the middle order of the English team that had Sutcliffe and Hobbs.

And that mans name is Simon Katich

Hayden
Katich
Ponting
Waugh
Waugh
Martyn
Gilchrist
Gillespie
Warne
Lee
McGrath
 
Prince EWS

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Katich wasn't actually better than Langer though, he wouldn't have made that Australian team. They actually could have picked him if they wanted at the time.
 
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Fuller Pilch said:
Sobers and Lloyd (better than Martyn) played together so no spaces at 5/6 for a middle order bat.
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This would be before Viv, Greenidge and Haynes though so you could easily find a better top order batsman.

I can think of openers better than Langer who did ok in the middle order and middle order batsmen who did ok opening but not someone who was in all fairness better than both Martyn and Langer.

Bruce Mitchell and Colin Cowdrey would be one examples of each respectively I guess.
 
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