Kallis v Sangakkara

[TheJediBrah]

Who was the better all-round player, all formats. Take into account batting/bowling/keeping/fielding/leadership/sledging

 

[Flem274*]

All round? Kallis. Batting is impossible to split, Sanga can obv keep very well but Kallis gives you a test standard bowler and world class slip.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Keeping in Tests is underrated. Especially keeping so much to Murali in turning Sri Lankan pitches (that are also roads )

 

[Chrish]

Kallis was a greater cricketer than anyone bar Sobers, Bradman and Khan.

 

[_Ed_]

Aw man, where's Himannv when you need him?

 

[thierry henry]

Kallis was a greater cricketer than anyone bar Sobers, Bradman and Khan.

and uhhh....Hammond, Hadlee, Pollock, Irani et al

 

[thierry henry]

Anyway, we all know the correct answer here is they both SUCKED BIG TIME

 

[Victor Ian]

But sanga sucked more.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Sanga's keeping* is worth more than Kallis' bowling


*ignoring that he didn't actually keep a lot of the time

 

[ankitj]

Who was the better all-round player, all formats. Take into account batting/bowling/keeping/fielding/leadership/sledging

That's not how it's done

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Kallis was a greater cricketer than anyone bar Sobers, Bradman and Khan.

And Hadlee, Hammond, and Grace

 

[Chrish]

I rate Kallis higher than those players due to reasons I mentioned in Kallis vs Hadlee thread.

Grace had numbers that were even more impressive than Bradman. However, cricket was so different back then, you might as well call it a different sport. Meaningful comparison between Grace and modern players is impossible.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Who was the better all-round player, all formats. Take into account batting/bowling/keeping/fielding/leadership/sledging

Batting - tests Sanga, ODI Kallis
Bowling - obviously Kallis
Keeping - obviously Sanga
Fielding - Kallis
Leadership - Sanga
Sledging - Sanga (anazing sledge to Pollock)

Sanga's test batting was amazing when not keeping (and P Jayawardene was probably the best test keeper of the 21st century), while Kallis kept bowling and being a quality slip fieldsman while scoring huge runs so OVERALL

Kallis

 

[TheJediBrah]

Batting - tests Sanga, ODI Kallis

This is a very controversial take

 

[Fuller Pilch]

This is a very controversial take

Both were ATG test batsmen, but fairly mediocre ODI batsmen. Kallis was was too slow but set a base for guys like Klusener and Kemp (and later ABDV). Sanga was also mediocre and only boosted his average over the last 2 years (in many ways thanks to a monster CWC). He scored 11 of his 25 ODI 100s in the last 2 years of his career and boosted his average from 38.56 to 41.98. Beforehand he was no better than Russell Arnold.

 

[Flem274*]

a keeper averaging 38 in odis is pretty ****ing legit ngl.

would have stood out as more of an advantage in a team with better options at 5-8. SL have always had good top order bats and specialist bowlers of some description in odis but in the middle they cobbled together a lot of jehan mubarak, farveez maharoof, thisara perera and upal chandana.

 

[Migara]

a keeper averaging 38 in odis is pretty ****ing legit ngl.

would have stood out as more of an advantage in a team with better options at 5-8. SL have always had good top order bats and specialist bowlers of some description in odis but in the middle they cobbled together a lot of jehan mubarak, farveez maharoof, thisara perera and upal chandana.

Mubarak and Perera had potential but did not do well. Farveez was ill-managed from his debut. SL selectors wanted a seam bowler out of him and played him as such in tests. But in reality he was a #7 batsman and the floater in ODIs, who was one of the hardest hitters SL has ever produced. He should have never played tests unless other bowlers were injured. He should have been a #6/7 batting allr-ounder for SL. Even then he was good enough to take 135 wickets at 28 in ODIs

 

[Migara]

Farveez Maharoof just climbs in to Warne in this IPL match, 5 balls, 26 runs 4 sixes,

 

[Anil]

i propose a kallis vs rest of the world thread...

 

[TheJediBrah]

Who would win:

Kallis
Kallis
Kallis (c)
Kallis
Kallis
Kallis
Kallis (wk)
Kallis
Kallis
Kallis
Kallis

vs

Hobbs
Hutton
Bradman
S.Smith
Viv
Imran (c)
Gilchrist
Hadlee
Marshall
Warne
McGrath