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Kallis v Sobers is a relatively like-for-like comparison. Otherwise there aren't really any bats of his calibre that could be classed as all rounders
No, Ashwin's batting isnt a gamechanger, neither was Hadlee. It was a bonus. They are borderline all-rounders.Its really not, I mean, I think someone mentioned Ashwin earlier in the thread, he really is a perfect comparison, would you call his batting a game changer? Or even blokes like Healy and Marsh?
Decent numbers but I think sheer output suggests Kallis is better in his second discipline.Against the 2 best bowling attacks of his era:
Hadlee averaged 32.41 with the bat vs WI
Hadlee averaged 37.26 with the bat vs Pak
Against the 2 best batting lineups of his era:
Kallis averaged 37.56 with the ball vs Aus
Kallis averaged 41.31 with the ball vs Ind
LOL the business regarding that damn car. What was he actually supposed to do, share it on different days of the week with team mates who livedHadlee is a wanker and that is a huge factor. It makes statements such as 'his batting was overrated', 'his bowling only looks good because he hogged the bowling' and 'his hair was stupid' all be truer. He kept the car for himself! Enough said.
And beat up a poor guy. I think his name starts with h and ends with v.Hadlee and Sangakkara walked into a bar.
He was a pretty good wanker though tbfHadlee is a wanker and that is a huge factor. It makes statements such as 'his batting was overrated', 'his bowling only looks good because he hogged the bowling' and 'his hair was stupid' all be truer. He kept the car for himself! Enough said.
Stupid moustache, thought he was Freddie MercuryHadlee is a wanker and that is a huge factor. It makes statements such as 'his batting was overrated', 'his bowling only looks good because he hogged the bowling' and 'his hair was stupid' all be truer. He kept the car for himself! Enough said.
Richard Frederick Paddles HadleeStupid moustache, thought he was Freddie Mercury
Don't go there. If Aussies criticise Hadlee's mo, we'll do the same to Border and Lillee's facial hair.Stupid moustache, thought he was Freddie Mercury
Phenomenal isnt the adjective I would use for Kallis the batsman.Yeah. I'm sure I've expressed my true admiration for the wanker before. He is truely phenomenal. So is Kallis, as a batsman. Then he is a very good 5th bowler and exceptional in slips. I'd probably really go with hadlee, but it is very close. It's like that Ponting one. Hadlee is clearly slightly better.
@Himannv walked out of that bar.Hadlee and Sangakkara walked into a bar.
Remember this exchange:I was going to say the same thing. Even if Hadlee was Chris Martin with the bat he'd still be my choice
Good point this. Most people will say Hadlee was better in his primary skill that Kallis was in his and I would agree. But Kallis also had clearly the better secondary skill. It does make this a mighty close contest. They are both top 10 players of all time for mine.Genuinely surprised at such a blow-out for Hadlee, yes he is a better Bowler than Kallis is a batsman - but Kallis is very much an ATG batsman on his own, Kallis is also a far better bowler than Hadlee is a batsman.
Why? He is kind of like Tendulkar stats wise. He was runs SA could depend on. Who cares about all this intent? SA barely lost on his stay. He was there being dependable runs first and it was up to others in that team to be the intent guys.Phenomenal isnt the adjective I would use for Kallis the batsman.
Do you have any real intent and a superior strike rate to drive this point into subshakerz mind? Because if you don't, you're wasting your time.Why? He is kind of like Tendulkar stats wise. He was runs SA could depend on. Who cares about all this intent? SA barely lost on his stay. He was there being dependable runs first and it was up to others in that team to be the intent guys.
I guess?