Javed Miandad vs Younis Khan

[PlayerComparisons]

Who is the greatest Pakistani batsman?

 

[subshakerz]

Statswise its Younis, but I think Miandad simply for the era he was in and facing a better standard of pace bowling.

 

[Coronis]

Probably Younis, just. A more well rounded record, Miandad struggled relatively overseas, and Younis did end up with 11 more centuries in just 24 more innings (just for a more relative comparison, after the same amount of innings, Younis-31, Javed-23). Overall I’ll prefer the batsman who succeeds in more varied conditions and is more capable of a big score. And whilst the overall bowling quality may not have been as high, he still managed 11 matches vs Murali, 10 against Steyn and 6 each against McGrath and Warne.

 

[honestbharani]

Younis IMO. But I missed almost all of Javed's career. ?‍

 

[BazBall21]

Javed

 

[trundler]

Younis because I enjoy pissing off my uncle with this assertion.

 

[Xuhaib]

Younis for me though just by a whisker however general consensus in Pakistan fan circle seems to be
Javed
Inzi
Hanif

With younis somewhere 4-7

 

[ashley bach]

This is my first involvement in a player comparison thread because I generally find them often impossible to split.
Was only very young when Javed was around but I certainly got to see a lot of him batting.
He was the ultimate warrior, a real tough nut to crack and extremely difficult to remove from the crease.
Does anyone remember the run in he had with Denis Lillee where Denis actually kicks him in the pads and Javed threatens to hit him by raising
his bat in the air? Pretty sure you can find a clip on youtube somewhere.
Younis had this unbelievable run of form where he seemed to get ton after ton. Correct me if I'm wrong please, but I think he even got
his average up close to 55 before dipping down again towards the end of his career.
Going to say JAVED was the greater test batsman, simply just because he was made of iron.
Another small thing in his favour was that when Pakistan played NZ he always had to face Hadlee, and without being a biased kiwi,
still see him as one of the best 3-4 bowlers I've ever seen.

 

[Jayro]

Javed Miandad easily for me, first- he batted in a difficult period when only two or three players in the whole world were maintaining an average of 51 or 52 in contrast to Younis when many ( about 15 ) players had been scoring with that average and some were as high as 55 , secondly to be great you have to be all round cricketer i feel younis was one dimensional in the sense that he also had a pretty mediocre record in limited over cricket where Javed was one the very best in that format too, so it's easily him for me in this comparison.

 

[smash84]

It's close, but Javed it is.

It has been a long time since Miandad retired so it is easy to forget his batting compared to Younis but Miandad was great at hanging around and building partnerships.

Also, given that most Pakistan batsmen have been mental midgets over the years, Javed was a giant in that regard and had levels of mental toughness that you would expect from Australians. I think it was Viv Richards who said that if he had to choose one batsman to bat for his life, it would be Miandad.

 

[ashley bach]

It's close, but Javed it is.

It has been a long time since Miandad retired so it is easy to forget his batting compared to Younis but Miandad was great at hanging around and building partnerships.

Also, given that most Pakistan batsmen have been mental midgets over the years, Javed was a giant in that regard and had levels of mental toughness that you would expect from Australians. I think it was Viv Richards who said that if he had to choose one batsman to bat for his life, it would be Miandad.

If the great sir Vivian is saying something like this, you know there's likely some real meaning behind it.

 

[subshakerz]

Younis for me though just by a whisker however general consensus in Pakistan fan circle seems to be
Javed
Inzi
Hanif

With younis somewhere 4-7

Nah, Younis is pretty much seen as better than Inzi and Hanif.

 

[subshakerz]

Another thing is Javed's favor is that by 1988/89, after he had scored in India, England, WI and NZ, he was pretty much seen as the best batsman in the world, something I think Younis never achieved.

 

[smash84]

How does that work in his favor?

It's like saying Lance Gibbs was considered the best bowler in the world at one point so that works in his favor compared to Graeme Swann.

 

[subshakerz]

How does that work in his favor?

It's like saying Lance Gibbs was considered the best bowler in the world at one point so that works in his favor compared to Graeme Swann.

Miandad in that late 80s phase achieved a higher peer rating in my view than Younis at any point in his career. Yes, it also has to do with the other competition around him but for a Pakistani batsman it is a rare thing.

 

[ankitj]

Been saying this about Ashwin. Good to see @subshakerz coming to that realisation himself

 

[Coronis]

Miandad in that late 80s phase achieved a higher peer rating in my view than Younis at any point in his career. Yes, it also has to do with the other competition around him but for a Pakistani batsman it is a rare thing.

He may have done so, but that has too many outside factors to be used as a reliable measure of comparison imo. Like you mentioned, the competition around them, personal bias against or for a player, performance against that particular player’s team, even the player’s aesthetics. We’ve also seen throughout history former and current players often making stupid and ridiculous claims about players, I just take it all with a grain of salt at this point.

Just as an example, Trumper and Hill. (Obviously I know Hill never had a First Class summer like 1902 and wasn’t an opener). However even in the recent poll here on batsmen, Trumper ranked 31st to Hill’s 49th. While their averages are almost identical, Hill scored 250 more runs in the same amount of innings. He also averaged more against England (35-32) and away from home (35-30). I’m not necessarily saying Hill > Trumper but the gap between them as we perceive it is no doubt in large part due to their peer rating, when in reality its really not that big at all.

 

[Fanboy375]

2000s was batting friendly era especially in Pak and UAE.Also in Miandad time pak umpire were famous for being biased

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Very close

 

[Johan]

eh, close but Javed, his windies series is the deciding factor for away and He's better at home.