Should ODI cricket go?

[SillyCowCorner1]

Yeah, it should go, I tell yah. Get the **** outta here.

All of the other sports have a pristine format of the game, while cricket has more flavors than ****ing Ben & Jerry's.

Some rich and fat tycoon only sees it lining up their ****ing fat pockets, and have no care about the game. **** them.


You wanna grow this game? Bring back Maurice Odumbe.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

SCC talking hot truth

 

[ankitj]

Hating ODIs is mostly a function of when you got into the game. Growing up through the 90s, every ODI was an event. I'm not sure if that's because everything's an event at that age, but teams certainly used to turn their best players out for games. I believe it's only somewhere in the late 00s that the concept of rotation crept into the game, not surprisingly at about the same time T20s came to prominence.

I still like ODIs, preferably in a multi-nation format whenever possible (quandrangular and upwards). I've liked these recent games in England despite them not being very competitive. It's a nice change of pace; I like how you can dip in and out at various stages and have live cricket at the back of your mind through the day.

I don't really hate T20s anymore either. They are what they are and they make money. It's still cricket at its core and at a far higher level than I was ever capable of playing at so **** it, no point complaining.

That's everything I would have liked to say. There is lot of nostalgia surrounding ODIs from the bygone era. Even bilateral ODI series were big events. When in 2006 India lost test series but won ODI series in Pakistan, it felt like overall we came even. That's how important bilateral ODI series used to feel. That's not the case anymore. I kinda feel guilty about not caring that much for ODI series anymore lol

 

[SJS]

Its amazing that "cricket lovers" (a difficult term to qualify in these times) should be discussing this question. Clearly the questioner feels T20 is great fr the game.

What can one say in reply to this?

Actually a lot but maybe I am a stranger to this place.

 

[shortpitched713]

Thoughts?

Truthfully, there's room for all formats, and always has been. As an analogy chess has classical, rapid, and blitz chess, and all are accommodated. I mean, competitive GM chess players will say they hate one or the other format, but that's because they're freak masochists whose chosen profession makes them go crazy ( just joking BTW ). However, they certainly appreciate that viewers will find some different value in each format, and gives them some different way to showcase their talents and abilities (and get paid).

The one's looking to squeeze out certain formats of the game of cricket are the most crass of commercialists, running their tables and ROI charts to try and figure out what gives them more buck for the buck.

In reality it's the cricket fans and cricket players together who should make the decisions as to how much of the different forms of cricket should be played, but unfortunately we live in a place far from the platonic ideal of a world.

 

[mr_mister]

T20 should go before ODI cricket

The shorter the format the less variety of different types of games they are (monster 400 scores, a gritty 220 vs 210, etc). T20 games all mostly feel the same to me, follow the same pattern with one or two variations during the powerplay or death overs

The 50 over WC has been responsible for 2 of the most exciting games ever, arguably more than most "epic" tests

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

T20 should go before ODI cricket

The shorter the format the less variety of different types of games they are (monster 400 scores, a gritty 220 vs 210, etc). T20 games all mostly feel the same to me, follow the same pattern with one or two variations during the powerplay or death overs

The 50 over WC has been responsible for 2 of the most exciting games ever, arguably more than most "epic" tests

What’s even more **** is a rain-affected T20 reduced to 5-overs a side.

Less is not more here. Slog slog slog. Wicket wicket wicket.

Why not make it a bowl off and call it a day

it would fit right into the tik tok time-limit for its watchers.

Oh crap, I think I’m mooooing too much here.

 

[GIMH]

The 50 over WC has been responsible for 2 of the most exciting games ever, arguably more than most "epic" tests

I think, similar to a post I made in the Stokes thread, a top tier ODI is so hard to beat. But a run of the mill JAMODI? Feels like a bit too much of a time investment.

 

[thierry henry]

Its amazing that "cricket lovers" (a difficult term to qualify in these times) should be discussing this question. Clearly the questioner feels T20 is great fr the game.

What can one say in reply to this?

Exactly. People are literally in here saying "well akshually I prefer T20s to ODIs now" like that's just a thing you can say. Just say "I'm a bad person" instead you *****

ODIs being good isn't "nostalgia" it's a statement of fact, that it's a good form of the game and we know it is because we've seen it be so for decades - it's not tests, but it's also not pure **** like the other thing. The format did not somehow pass its use by date or become bad cricket because it's space got taken up by T20, we just replaced a good thing with a **** thing.

Ugh man I didn't quite realise how much this whole thing bothers me, I guess I'm just cranky because NZ are at the forefront of killing off ODIs and I am ****ing gagging for some

 

[Niall]

Don't care if it was banished, but curious how would it would affect the ladies.

For them its arguably the pinnacle as their is so little test cricket , just franchise t20 and international t20 for them and one test every few years if the big three can be arsed?

 

[davado]

the nostalgia for ODI cricket displayed here is sad. Depressing even. Except for womens cricket its a dead format. Deal with it. It deserved to die. Its boring compared to t20, anyway you slice it
40 overs of singles until you get to the action? why bother? dont bore me
t20 is a godsend

 

[Line and Length]

I'm of the old school who sees Tests as the pinnacle of cricket. ODIs and t20s have attracted a broader spectrum of spectators.
There are those with shorter attention spans who fail to recognise the greater use of tactics in ODIs when compared with t20s.
There is a place for all formats but there is a big need for the co-ordination and planning by authorities so that one form doesn't jeopardise another. Sadly there is one factor, money, that ensures this won't happen.
@ davado calls t20 a "godsend". It may be for those who may have displayed little interest in cricket in the past and it certainly has been for the promoters who organise the multitude of meaningless t20 fixtures.
As a past player I shake my head at a format which deliberately skews the game in favour of the bat over the ball. Shortened boundaries, flat wickets, balls that offer little swing and not to mention huge bats with edges that enable miscues to fly for six.
Put simply, t20 isn't the game I call cricket. I accepted ODIs as a shortened version of the game I played and loved but when I watch t20s it is an alien game.

 

[Daemon]

T20s are tiktoks. ODIs are youtube vids and Tests are TV series/movies.

They all kinda have their place for different people at different times.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

T20s are tiktoks. ODIs are youtube vids and Tests are TV series/movies.

They all kinda have their place for different people at different times.

Oh! Oh, no! Oh, no! Oh, no, oh!

 

[Flem274*]

what i don't like about t20 is i don't get to watch the bowlers bowl an actual spell, and they don't bowl in the most interesting way much within their 4 overs either.

In an ODI I get to watch 2-3 spells per-bowler, and the spells will often be different with some attacking lengths in one and then at the death the cat and mouse game.

The same goes to batsmen. I get to see more of the batsmen in an ODI, and they're doing a wider variety of things.

T20 tried to capture the opening few and death overs of ODIs into one quick dose but what we got instead was a run rate management simulator, and a format where the game has no time to build suspense. That's why the ending of a test, ODI or any sport works so well - the players have built a narrative.

Standard T20 is like reading the first and last chapter of every book. The exception is T20 on dodgy decks, like those Bangers put out to ambush NZ and Aussie on. Those were fun because farrrk did you have to scrap for every run. 120 vs 80 was a gripping game. T20 on dodgy decks are the pinnacle of sporting airport novels.

 

[Daemon]

It's an inferior 'quality' of cricket imo, but a superior entertainment option for me (and the masses I suppose) atm unless I was retired and had all the time in the world or something.

 

[Adders]

the nostalgia for ODI cricket displayed here is sad. Depressing even. Except for womens cricket its a dead format. Deal with it. It deserved to die. Its boring compared to t20, anyway you slice it
40 overs of singles until you get to the action? why bother? dont bore me
t20 is a godsend

TH said it best.......this just makes you a bad person.

 

[trundler]

ODIs are definitely worth persisting with if they have their own distinct personality. No point in extended T20s. The solution to this is to go back to one ball and better pitches. For the life of me I can't understand why people would rather scrap them or overhaul the format. There's no need. Even now when the first XIs play each other on good decks, it's great to watch.

 

[SteveNZ]

I like the idea of "a day at the cricket". It reminds me of a time where leisure was an actual concept and thing that a man could aspire to, before the modern age of "go now, go faster, all the time, now die".

So I have no love for 20-20, and will always prefer ODI to it.

This is so, SO true. The wonderful days of carving a day out for yourself, rather than being 'busy being busy' and some feeling of guilt over spending a whole day on leisure for your own good.

 

[Arachnodouche]

T20s are tiktoks. ODIs are youtube vids and Tests are TV series/movies.

They all kinda have their place for different people at different times.

I think T20 strategies are becoming more granular and finely articulated all the time. There might be an eventual cap to that because of how abridged the format inherently is, but teams at the world cup and in the bigger leagues seem to take it far more seriously than posters online.