reverse sweep- idiotic shot

[davado]

i dont care how well a batter plays a particular reverse sweep. Odds are he's going to chance his wicket 1 in 4 attempts. I
cant believe coaches havent figured that out and stopped people playing the ridiculous shot.
As far as i can see noone has completely mastered it and noone ever will. Because its such a dumb shot. I cringe everytime i see one

 

[subshakerz]

i dont care how well a batter plays a particular reverse sweep. Odds are he's going to chance his wicket 1 in 4 attempts. I
cant believe coaches havent figured that out and stopped people playing the ridiculous shot.
As far as i can see noone has completely mastered it and noone ever will. Because its such a dumb shot. I cringe everytime i see one

If a bowler is bowling a certain line consistently, the pitch doesnt bounce variably and and the batsman is well set, it is a reasonable shot to play

 

[thierry henry]

I actually find it incredible how effective it is. Feels like it should be way harder. Like batting in cricket is all about super precise technique yet also somehow turns out crazy predetermined trick shots are kinda easy.

 

[TheJediBrah]

If a bowler is bowling a certain line consistently, the pitch doesnt bounce variably and and the batsman is well set, it is a reasonable shot to play

Most relevant factor: field setting

not only does the shot itself target a generally unprotected area, the threat of having that shot in your arsenal can force the opposition to waste a fielder to protect it, hence leaving more room in the field for conventional shots

 

[Shady Slim]

Most relevant factor: field setting

not only does the shot itself target a generally unprotected area, the threat of having that shot in your arsenal can force the opposition to waste a fielder to protect it, hence leaving more room in the field for conventional shots

yeah unless you've got to coordination of one of those clay golems of hebrew mythology, provided that you pick the right ball to do it to it's a super valuable shot and really low risk, but, just like the regular sweep, or for that matter any other shot, you play it to the wrong ball, you might get out, shocker!

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Wanna see a reverse forward defense.

 

[cnerd123]

Odds are he's going to chance his wicket 1 in 4 attempts.

where did you pull that number from?

 

[Aritro]

Problem is you're locked into playing it when you get in hands in that weird position, your arc is a bit more limited and you might end up having to drag one from way outside the line.

Good for taking advantage of gaps/manoeuvring the field though

 

[Burgey]

I think people should simply hit the bowler back over their head instead of playing it tbh.

 

[Howe_zat]

Yeah it's all about field placings

If they're stacking the leg side, **** 'em, you'll make your own god damn leg side

 

[ataraxia]

It's pretty easy to play also, right? Doesn't take a lot to get down pat compared to other shots I think, so that might be another reason why it's played so much.

 

[davado]

where did you pull that number from?

my arse i suppose but just through observation its a chance one in 4 times its played. Id be surprised if im proven wrong, its just a terrible shot especially in a test match. Maybe if the batter is publicly flogged after getting out to it, theyll stop

 

[Starfighter]

My experience of batsmen playing reverse sweeps and even regular sweeps has tended to end in me giving them out lbw.

 

[cnerd123]

my arse i suppose but just through observation its a chance one in 4 times its played. Id be surprised if im proven wrong, its just a terrible shot especially in a test match. Maybe if the batter is publicly flogged after getting out to it, theyll stop

the ones who play it a lot rarely get out to it

 

[Bijed]

I don't think it's worse that any other shot really provided you're actually good at executing it, play it to the right ball etc. It can look especially bad when it goes wrong, I guess because all the moving about make it look like you've over-complicated things?

Players definitely get a bit trigger-happy/reliant on sweeps and reverse sweeps sometimes, but that's not an issue with the shot itself, it's just a sign that their game against spin is incomplete

 

[cnerd123]

My experience of batsmen playing reverse sweeps and even regular sweeps has tended to end in me giving them out lbw.

perhaps at club level, but at professional level the sweeps are actually a tool to negate LBWs/protect your stumps. The orthodox sweep gets used to balls pitching outside off, with the batter aiming to get their pad outside the line. The reverse is often used to balls pitching outside of leg, which you can't be out LBW to anyways. Sweeping to straight balls is not recommended, and often not required - you can just play those with a straight bat. It's more useful when there is a lot of turn on offer.

As batters like Root and Carey have shown recently, being adept at the sweep and reverse also makes it extremely difficult for a spinner to bowl dry in good batting conditions. The standard plan is to bowl to one side of the wicket, usually dumping the ball outside leg, but if the batter can hit that to either side of the field then there is very little the bowler can do.

 

[Uppercut]

I actually find it incredible how effective it is. Feels like it should be way harder. Like batting in cricket is all about super precise technique yet also somehow turns out crazy predetermined trick shots are kinda easy.

Yeah this is how I feel too. From the batsman's perspective I think it has a very good false shot to dismissal ratio. You can make a lot of mistakes playing it without getting out.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Wanna see a reverse forward defense.

Done it. Realised that I'd yorked myself to a quicker ball but was already half way through reverse sweeping it and ended up just blocking down on it with hands crossed the wrong way. Surprisingly easy to do

 

[Adders]

@TheJediBrah have you ever done a reverse kanga?

 

[TheJediBrah]

I had to google that

and yes