Official - Road to Ashes 2023

[Howe_zat]

given their bowling attack, australia should be absolutely demolishing england here

Haha, 'should' has nothing to do with it any more

 

[GIMH]

We where definitely the better side in the last tour tbf.

2-2 and a draw where England were the more likely side to win though…

 

[Nintendo]

2-2 and a draw where England were the more likely side to win though…

Where they? Australia dominated more of the 1st, the second test was pretty even until halfway through England's second innings and even then the draw was more likely until marnus got out. Australia dominated more of the 3rd test and all of the 4th test and England where the Better side in the 5th test (wasn't as dominate as the 4th test).

 

[GIMH]

Where they? Australia dominated more of the 1st, the second test was pretty even until halfway through England's second innings and even then the draw was more likely until marnus got out. Australia dominated more of the 3rd test and all of the 4th test and England where the Better side in the 5th test (wasn't as dominate as the 4th test).

Dominating x% of a Test is largely irrelevant if you lose though. Oz were 6 down when play ended at Lords. So granted it wasn’t a 9 down nail biter and Head was relatively comfortable but England were the only side that looked like winning on that last day.

 

[Pothas]

He doesn't bowl much anymore but the way England will hack away with their eyes closed, Baz first over of the WC final style, I could see this happening

Yeah he might get one over and get someone caught in the deep as England approach 600.

 

[Pothas]

FMD the carnage Boland will wreak in English conditions. They couldn't play him on flat decks here. It'll be handy for him to come in at 3-0 up for the 4th test and make hay again.

I will admit I was concerned about this before bit nah he is just repeatedly getting hit straight back over his head.

 

[GIMH]

Dominating x% of a Test is largely irrelevant if you lose though. Oz were 6 down when play ended at Lords. So granted it wasn’t a 9 down nail biter and Head was relatively comfortable but England were the only side that looked like winning on that last day.

I will accept mine that via my own logic you can argue that Oz were the only side who looked like winning at Headingley after lunch on that last day until, well…

 

[GIMH]

I will admit I was concerned about this before bit nah he is just repeatedly getting hit straight back over his head.

Will be whipped out of the attack before it repeats itself too much mind

 

[TheJediBrah]

2-2 and a draw where England were the more likely side to win though…

this is some take

Stokes was plumb lbw at 9-down in the Headingly test. One correct umpire decision and it's 3-1

 

[Howe_zat]

I will admit I was concerned about this before bit nah he is just repeatedly getting hit straight back over his head.

Imagine still being concerned with what's plausible as oppose to our invincible ginger sorcery

 

[GIMH]

this is some take

Stokes was plumb lbw at 9-down in the Headingly test. One correct umpire decision and it's 3-1

Should have reviewed it then. Scorecard says not out and England win. That’s a fact not a take.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Should have reviewed it then. Scorecard says not out and England win. That’s a fact not a take.

your face is a take

 

[Nintendo]

Dominating x% of a Test is largely irrelevant if you lose though. Oz were 6 down when play ended at Lords. So granted it wasn’t a 9 down nail biter and Head was relatively comfortable but England were the only side that looked like winning on that last day.

Australia didn't lose though? The match was a draw, and the only time aus looked like losing was just before marnus came to the crease and after that little burst where we lost 2 wickets after marnus. If dominating % of a test doesn't matter then the series was a 2-2 draw and neither of us are right, the teams where completely even.

 

[GIMH]

Australia didn't lose though? The match was a draw, and the only time aus looked like losing was just before marnus came to the crease and after that little burst where we lost 2 wickets after marnus. If dominating % of a test doesn't matter then the series was a 2-2 draw and neither of us are right, the teams where completely even.

I agree partially and did acknowledge this in my subsequent post. But looking like winning a Test you lose makes the early domination irrelevant. The fact we will never know what would have happened at Lord’s makes it fair enough to write it off though.

 

[Howe_zat]

Remember that time the football team were 3-0 up before losing 4-3 and so everyone agreed they were the better side in that game

 

[TheJediBrah]

Remember that time the football team were 3-0 up before losing 4-3 and so everyone agreed they were the better side in that game

Never seen such a low score in football

 

[Nintendo]

I agree partially and did acknowledge this in my subsequent post. But looking like winning a Test you lose makes the early domination irrelevant. The fact we will never know what would have happened at Lord’s makes it fair enough to write it off though.

That's completely fair. Just think the easiest way to quantify the better team in a situation like this is to see who dominated/performed better for longer stretches of the series.

 

[chris.hinton]

Lets do predictions

Result - Aust 4 - 0 (obvious crap weather ensuring a draw)
Most runs - Usman
Most wickets - Cu m
Biggest Failure - Bairstow/ Root
Surprise package - Baz/Stokes to get sacked at the end of the tour as coach and captain respectively

Wishful thinking. Bazball will scare the aussies and i believe its already having an impact. We will win 3-0

 

[Burgey]

I will admit I was concerned about this before bit nah he is just repeatedly getting hit straight back over his head.

he isn't a finger spinner though

 

[subshakerz]

It will be a great series. England will be underdogs but will good a give fight.