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*Official* 2022 New Zealand Tour of England, Ireland, Scotland & Netherlands
- Thread starter Kippax
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Skyliner
International 12th Man
Great comment on Stuff by ‘Slim Shady’ -
‘Against Aus, Ind, Sa, Eng, Pak (Teams ranked 1 - 6)
2150 runs, avg 27.56, 3 centuries in 80 innings
Against Ban, Sl, WI and Zim (Teams ranked 7 - 10)
2397 runs, avg 70.50, 9 centuries in 37 innings
They only player in the world who doesn't perform against strong teams even in home conditions, failed to score runs on even the flattest pitch that he'll ever get to play on, yet he has played 67 consecutive test matches and is even the stand in captain and nobody ever questions his spot, the biggest MINNOW BASHER 'Tom Latham'’
‘Against Aus, Ind, Sa, Eng, Pak (Teams ranked 1 - 6)
2150 runs, avg 27.56, 3 centuries in 80 innings
Against Ban, Sl, WI and Zim (Teams ranked 7 - 10)
2397 runs, avg 70.50, 9 centuries in 37 innings
They only player in the world who doesn't perform against strong teams even in home conditions, failed to score runs on even the flattest pitch that he'll ever get to play on, yet he has played 67 consecutive test matches and is even the stand in captain and nobody ever questions his spot, the biggest MINNOW BASHER 'Tom Latham'’
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Why does our team seem so intent on proving @thierry henry with the most pessimistic takes possible right? Have only caught up on the wickets from the last two sessions but it looks like a total clown show.
thierry henry
International Coach
Just watched the highlights. Can anyone make any sense of anything we're doing.
thierry henry
International Coach
"What a great test match" "What a thrilling final day in store" GTFO. It's been awful cricket and it's not even a well poised match because it's been so obvious that we're going to lose since England were on about 300.
Flem274*
123/5
well we need to win, so i understand the aggression. im more frustrated as a fan because, much like with the warriors, no one will be held accountable for the past 12 months. much like with the hurricanes and their crazy persistence with JGB and constant midfield tinkering, the management will keep their jobs.
"oh we tried really hard, the boys did well with what we have and there is no shame in being outcompeted by such a talented england side on the rise" **** off
"oh we tried really hard, the boys did well with what we have and there is no shame in being outcompeted by such a talented england side on the rise" **** off
thierry henry
International Coach
For what? To win the WTC? Come on bruh...at this point I just want us to maybe draw this series against England, because the alternative is this disgraceful series loss we're in the midst of.
Flem274*
123/5
no, we have to try win the series. playing for draws halfway through a series is 2008 stuff. these guys are better than that in ability if not current output, and that 2008 england side probably had better batting than this one even counting the one man army (interesting comparison though).
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
NZ pretty much nailed on to lose this, unless Southee suddenly comes good and he and Boult can pick up 3 or 4 early wickets. England just need to make it through that opening burst and they’ll cruise this. 2 run-outs (even if one of them was Southee) is absolutely unforgivable in this situation.
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
I posted jokingly about this last night, but I seriously think Nz’s best chance to win would’ve been to set England about 300 in 50-60 overs, and tried to play on Stokes/BMac’s egos. Bracewell coming out and batting like a maniac on the 4th evening was totally unnecessary.
thierry henry
International Coach
No, losing the series is 2008 stuff. When a draw is in sight (test and series) and slogging makes it much more likely you'll lose than win, you play for the draw (test and series). Losing a test series you should have drawn is Very Bad. If losing means nothing, winning means nothing.
thierry henry
International Coach
"Playing for draws halfway through the series" is what you do when the draw is clearly the percentage option based on the hole you've already dug yourself. If we had ended up drawing the series it wouldn't be because we batted sensibly on day 4, it would be because we weren't good enough to win prior to then. You don't just go and blithely lose a test series because you had some tiny chance of winning.
thierry henry
International Coach
Losing when you could have easily not lost, because you chose the approach that maximised your chances of losing, is like....the worst thing to watch.
Flem274*
123/5
a total of 300 on the final day or 2 sessions is always defendable. we needed to always have a speculative look (remember we won those hilarious SL and Bangladesh tests where both sides scored a million against arguably a more solid batting order than England). I didn't watch the collapse so I can't comment on how we batted, but we were always correct to be targeting something to have a speculative bowl at.
Macewell's innings seems to be getting singled out a lot and all I have to say is well duh this guy, no disrespect to him, is more known for his T20 than FC run scoring. You don't average 33 in FC cricket by being consistently good at batting.
