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*Official* 2022 New Zealand Tour of England, Ireland, Scotland & Netherlands
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Red_Ink_Squid
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Just caught Vaughan's comments on the start of the Stokes/McCullum era.
No lie, he said he was concerned that McCullum will want England to always be aggressive, but he (Vaughan) thinks they have to earn the right to be aggressive first.
No lie, he said he was concerned that McCullum will want England to always be aggressive, but he (Vaughan) thinks they have to earn the right to be aggressive first.
Obviously as a result, the first Test will reflect well on McCullum in terms of the media attention he'll get. You know, because the media always goes with win=good, loss=bad no matter what the circumstance.
I'm not sure the manner of the win befits that, however. They've won on the back of Root runs and seamer performance, all of which existed before.
I'd be more interested in the way Stokes played, which let's not forget should have ended on zero in the second innings. That looked like it had Baz written all over it. I know if buts and maybes are often a waste of time, but if Stokes goes then, the result might be different. Hell of a way for an England captain to play. Certainly not how he played at Headingley '19, either.
I'm not sure the manner of the win befits that, however. They've won on the back of Root runs and seamer performance, all of which existed before.
I'd be more interested in the way Stokes played, which let's not forget should have ended on zero in the second innings. That looked like it had Baz written all over it. I know if buts and maybes are often a waste of time, but if Stokes goes then, the result might be different. Hell of a way for an England captain to play. Certainly not how he played at Headingley '19, either.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
There was a degree of irony in one of the New Zealand team coming over early to play a bit of County Cricket to get acclimatised and then running himself out first ball, getting a vital "wicket" with a no ball and then leaving the attack a man short by getting injured.
Haha, apologies. He got off the mark with that similar charge and squeeze did he not? Or at least played and missed before?
That ignores the fact he top scored in the first innings and looked our best batsman by miles,then dismissed the eventual man of the match cheaply.
Also didn't smack his wife around or support a racist regime. Boycott never on my list for being a ****ing prick
TheJediBrah
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Root best in world
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
It doesn't ignore anything. He contributed in the first half of the match, but after that his adventure was costly, and possibly decisive.
ImpatientLime
International Regular
yeah but funny quips about his mum and 'roobarb'......
In terms of being acclimatised, CdG was the one who was able to perform in our side. His first innings knock was exactly how to play on that deck, and he bowled well as well.
But after that, he did Colin 'tings'. And yeah, pretty costly and whilst I wouldn't like apportion blame onto one guy, his overstepping and brain melt with the bat certainly were moments that helped shift the momentum to England. We've come to expect that from Colin. No matter how many times he plays a knock like he did in the first innings - mature, technically sound, highly skilled - we know that around the corner there can be a slog out to three men on a long boundary or an insane run out like that one. Nice luxury in a consistent team with contributions across the board, not so good in the current set-up.
Flem274*
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On McCullum - as expected England's commitment in the field was the best I've seen them in test cricket for a long time, and they didn't fall asleep.
It resulted in a concussion but if Silverwood is coaching they drop a catch as usual imo and it might have cost them. McCullum has impossible fielding standards to meet.
It resulted in a concussion but if Silverwood is coaching they drop a catch as usual imo and it might have cost them. McCullum has impossible fielding standards to meet.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
Let's all hail the true hero here. Arise Sir Robert Key. 
ImpatientLime
International Regular
what are the chances of wagner getting a go at trent bridge? is he considered a risk because he might be past it?
it felt very england-y watching new zealand bowl from the root/stokes partnership onwards. a bunch of lads bowling the same fast medium with little to no movement. just waiting for the new ball.
it felt very england-y watching new zealand bowl from the root/stokes partnership onwards. a bunch of lads bowling the same fast medium with little to no movement. just waiting for the new ball.