Garner / Pollock / McGrath / Hadlee

[Migara]

Very similar bowlers in ODI matches. What is striking is that all four of these bowlers were extremely accurate. I tries to adjust the averages and strike rates in relation to the peers.



Pollock has most wickets, Garner has the best average, Hadlee has the best ER.

Who would have been the best?

 

[TheJediBrah]

McGrath = Garner > Hadlee >> Pollock

But the 3 other than Pollock all pretty close

 

[trundler]

McGrath = Garner > Hadlee >> Pollock

But the 3 other than Pollock all pretty close

Inb4 @Bolo. aneurysm.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Can we add Nuwan Kulesekara?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Zoysa IMO

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Zoysa IMO

Nuwan Pradeep might worth a look-in as well

 

[Flem274*]

In era context it's pretty clearly McGrath then the other 3. Pollock probably second.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I did take into account that Garner and Hadlee were much more bowler-friendly ODI eras but maybe not by enough and underrated Shaun

 

[Line and Length]

According to Members' Voting, it's McGrath just ahead of Hadlee then daylight to Garner and another gap to Pollock. If we are just looking at that quartet I can't see much change in that order though personally I put Hadlee marginally ahead of McGrath.

Having said that, the Members' list and my opinion are purely based on Tests.

 

[Bolo.]

Very similar bowlers in ODI matches. What is striking is that all four of these bowlers were extremely accurate. I tries to adjust the averages and strike rates in relation to the peers.

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Pollock has most wickets, Garner has the best average, Hadlee has the best ER.

Who would have been the best?

How is Garner getting hammered so badly in the adjustments relative to Hadlee? The vast majority the games they played were in the same era.

 

[subshakerz]

Given the record and era, Mcgrath is the top. But I voted Garner, I just think he was the perfect ODI bowler.

 

[Migara]

How is Garner getting hammered so badly in the adjustments relative to Hadlee? The vast majority the games they played were in the same era.

Probably there are a few matches Hadlee played before where few big scores are achieved.

 

[Bolo.]

Probably there are a few matches Hadlee played before where few big scores are achieved.

He played about 10 matches pre-garner. And about 20 after garner. Would expect these to even out. But even if they don't... Garner is getting hit with a 20ish% penalty on his adjusted ER, while Hadlee is static.

If this is an era adjustment, the maths doesn't work.

 

[Victor Ian]

Garner needs more adjustment if he was 3rd ball bowler of his time as that was the time batsman smacked you around back then.

 

[Red]

Garner was the best limited overs quick of all time, regardless of what you reckon about era adjustments or whatever. The bloke was built for it.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Garner was the best limited overs quick of all time, regardless of what you reckon about era adjustments or whatever. The bloke was built for it.

Not all he was built for. Could have had a very successful career in a certain film industry

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Probably there are a few matches Hadlee played before where few big scores are achieved.

Due to the big grounds in NZ

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Garner and McGrath better ODI bowlers.
Hadlee and Pollock better ODI cricketers.

 

[jayjay]

McGrath clearly the best in ODIs, Pollock would be second for me and Hadlee/Garner bringing up the rear.

 

[ankitj]

My sheet gives it to Hadlee. His higher longevity pushes him past Garner.

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My vote though for Garner in this poll.