*Official* IPL 2022

[Niall]

They HAVE to play Neesham. Their balance is gone otherwise but they seem to insist on playing Ash at #7.

That was a clear no-ball for me and the umpires were just being absolute dicks. So while generally it would be silly to have what went on go down, I think in this case those idiot umpires deserved this.

But DC lost it in the 19th over when the stupid Lalit could not even get a single to get Powell on strike. You cant play out a wicket maiden when you need 37 from 12.

Yeah I'd play Neesham also,,,Buttler can't keep scoring centuries.

However to play Devil's advocate, would the NZ lads trust Jimmy with 4 overs any high level t20?

 

[Flem274*]

Yeah I'd play Neesham also,,,Buttler can't keep scoring centuries.

However to play Devil's advocate, would the NZ lads trust Jimmy with 4 overs any high level t20?

No. There's more room for error in the IPL than in international t20, but he's always going to go for runs. It's the wickets that decrease as life gets harder.

He and CdG are often selected together to cover that 4 overs

 

[Flem274*]

thats an awesome take mate even if its not out

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

I've said this many times before in this thread...

Sunrisers are championship contenders!

 

[Shri]

No. There's more room for error in the IPL than in international t20, but he's always going to go for runs. It's the wickets that decrease as life gets harder.

He and CdG are often selected together to cover that 4 overs

albie morkel was about as good as neesham with the ball but csk used him almost exclusively as a new ball bowler and he smashed rapid runs consistently

neesham should be in csk

 

[cnerd123]

I disagree, unless you're pottering along then averages still matter most.

nah. You only need 2 anchors at most who can churn out runs at a high average, the value of the remaining 9 players is SR. If you're going to bat 10-20 balls your average is irrelevant.

 

[duffer]

Do we need a 'Everybody laugh at RCB' thread or something?

Lollipops

 

[honestbharani]

Do we need a 'Everybody laugh at RCB' thread or something?

Lollipops

Een when they have a good side and are having a good season they provide us the lulz...

 

[honestbharani]

So Lara came back after the Warne memorial in time for SRH's 3rd game.

And his team have won 100% of their matches when he has been with them. And MI have lost 100% of their matches where Sachin was with them.
We need @sunilz to tell us about the panautiness of Sachin.

 

[Flem274*]

nah. You only need 2 anchors at most who can churn out runs at a high average, the value of the remaining 9 players is SR. If you're going to bat 10-20 balls your average is irrelevant.

Nah. People used to get like this with ER and SR in ODIs too, citing outliers like figures of 5/65 as their counter argument.

You need 6 guys in your t20 team who can score 100, or 50-80 for batting position 4-6, at an acceptable strike rate or your batting is all icing and will lose knockout games.

The major t20 specialists aren't there primarily for their strike rate. They score big runs. Runs and wickets at sensible strike rates and economies are the only currency that has ever mattered in cricket and ever will.

 

[honestbharani]

Runs and wickets at sensible strike rates and economies are the only currency that has ever mattered in cricket and ever will.

The word sensible does almost all of the heavy lifting there, but this is something I agree with completely. Good job summarizing it so well, Flem. Maybe there is hope for you, afterall.

Or @Athlai just posted it from the wrong account, I guess.

 

[Athlai]

Yolo #sixeswinmatches

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Yes, Shokeen definitely bowls it like Miraz

 

[karan_fromthestands]

Wasn't he a big buy a couple of years ago?

Going back to this match...not once did he try to come from around the wicket like the big boys (Starc, Shaheen Shah Afridi) against Dhoni. It would have been interesting to see...

I think despite his limitations, he bowled one bad ball in that final over to MSD. He outfoxed him with a slower bouncer which went for a four, the last ball was also a good yorker that unfortunately went into the gap, just needed some luck there. I feel bad for him, I think he has improved his batting a lot and worked his ass off in the domestic games, but his lack of pace is always going to be an issue in death overs.

 

[cnerd123]

I think despite his limitations, he bowled one bad ball in that final over to MSD. He outfoxed him with a slower bouncer which went for a four, the last ball was also a good yorker that unfortunately went into the gap, just needed some luck there. I feel bad for him, I think he has improved his batting a lot and worked his ass off in the domestic games, but his lack of pace is always going to be an issue in death overs.

Not just pace but there really is nothing unique about Unadkat. Doesn't bowl with a weird action, doesn't have a good well disguised variation, doesn't execute the yorker particularly well, doesn't release the ball from strange angles. Just kind of generic left arm pace stuff. Hard to be a consistently effective death bowler unless you've got something unique about you.

 

[Flem274*]

Not just pace but there really is nothing unique about Unadkat. Doesn't bowl with a weird action, doesn't have a good well disguised variation, doesn't execute the yorker particularly well, doesn't release the ball from strange angles. Just kind of generic left arm pace stuff. Hard to be a consistently effective death bowler unless you've got something unique about you.

his issue isn't that he lacks some quirk, his issue is that he's just an average bowler.

mitchell starc is probably the greatest death bowler of all time because he subscribes to the decades old theory of 150kph inswinging yorkers being quite hard to hit. to pick a less extreme example, most of the best international death bowlers are just really good orthodox bowlers.

 

[karan_fromthestands]

Not just pace but there really is nothing unique about Unadkat. Doesn't bowl with a weird action, doesn't have a good well disguised variation, doesn't execute the yorker particularly well, doesn't release the ball from strange angles. Just kind of generic left arm pace stuff. Hard to be a consistently effective death bowler unless you've got something unique about you.

Agreed! Again, I love how determined he is and the stuff he is doing in domestic red-ball cricket, but he just can't bowl at the death and I can't see how he can keep his place in a LO side unless some decides to completely keep him away from last 5 overs. Has added some meat to his batting but he's not as damaging as Narine or Shardul with the bat.

 

[Calm_profit]

Once again Jadeja proving that he is a garbage in white ball cricket.

 

[honestbharani]

Arshdeep is awesome. Have been a fan since the last cycle when Ashwin finally picked him.

 

[slippy888]

bringing in satner at 3 cost them