South African cricket racism issue: Report implicates Smith, Boucher and de Villiers

[StephenZA]

Smith will survive the cull but Boucher? Not a chance.

On what do you base this?

 

[Stefan9]

I think boucher is more likely to survive for now as he has a longer contract. Smith's is expiring and he will need to reapply.

I don't see boucher getting an extension but he has a contract till the 2023 wc.

 

[Stefan9]

Seems most lawyers also don't get how boucher isn't suspended pending the hearing:

Labour lawyers differ with Cricket SA’s legal opinions on Boucher’s non suspension

The dates for Mark Boucher’s hearing may be set for May but the charges against him are so serious that his employer Cricket SA should have put the embattled national team coach on suspension.

www.timeslive.co.za

 

[Stefan9]

Rapport citing unnamed sources claim boucher was also abused.

Ex-Proteas: Adams called Boucher 'white c**t'

Several players, including Paul Adams, referred to Mark Boucher as "white c**t" in the Proteas change room two decades ago.

www.sacricketmag.com

 

[StephenZA]

I hope nobody thinks this makes it any better for anybody?

 

[Stefan9]

I hope nobody thinks this makes it any better for anybody?

Nope just makes the whole culture that team had sickening to me.

 

[StephenZA]

Nope just makes the whole culture that team had sickening to me.

Are you really surprised? I mean from my point of view this is just common everyday stuff that people are always doing. More awareness is now around, but largely that has just driven the attitude under ground and made people complain more that they can't just freely 'banter'...

 

[Starfighter]

While one might sympathise with Adams (if the allegation is true) as he may have been responding to Boucher, I think the saying 'two wrongs don't make a right' is applicable.

 

[Stefan9]

Are you really surprised? I mean from my point of view this is just common everyday stuff that people are always doing. More awareness is now around, but largely that has just driven the attitude under ground and made people complain more that they can't just freely 'banter'...

Not surprised at all.

 

[jayjay]

While one might sympathise with Adams (if the allegation is true) as he may have been responding to Boucher, I think the saying 'two wrongs don't make a right' is applicable.

Agreed but its likely a response to years of abuse.

Stil crazy how so many of these people are in positions of power. Nothing will change in SA.

 

[kevinw]

In the context of these guys growing up under apartheid, any allegations against Adams and those against the white players are hardly identical.

 

[wpdavid]

In the context of these guys growing up under apartheid, any allegations against Adams and those against the white players are hardly identical.

Especially when you consider the racial mix within the side at the time. Adams responding in kind is a classic case of damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.

 

[Heboric]

I just hope that this narrative is not going towards the cliche of people of colour cant be racist, which is very untrue

 

[kevinw]

I just hope that this narrative is not going towards the cliche of people of colour cant be racist, which is very untrue

But you cannot directly equate the two.

 

[Stefan9]

Smith was cleared:

Graeme Smith cleared of all racism allegations, Cricket SA ordered to pay legal costs | Sport

Former Proteas captain Graeme Smith has been cleared of all racism allegations levelled against him by Cricket South Africa's Social Justice and Nation-Building report.

www.news24.com

 

[Dendarii]

So Smith's hearing was a waste of time and money and only succeeded in driving him away. Great job CSA.

 

[Stefan9]

Boucher's legal team fails to get key documents

Proteas coach Mark Boucher has suffered an early setback in the disciplinary case in which Cricket South Africa will argue for his dismissal.

www.sacricketmag.com

 

[StephenZA]

So Smith's hearing was a waste of time and money and only succeeded in driving him away. Great job CSA.

It was always going to be a waste of Time and Money but had to be done after the SJN report. The SJN report turned into a witch hunt rather than actually resolving any issues.

 

[andruid]

So Smith's hearing was a waste of time and money and only succeeded in driving him away. Great job CSA.

Job done for the cronyists?

 

[StephenZA]

Job done for the cronyists?

Not done out of cronyism, I don't think... its more about political and social perception. This whole thing is under-currented with racial attitudes and prejudice.