Stumped!

[Magrat Garlick]

Aaaand Fouche also gone, another quickfire but not really required 23.

Deep trouble here.

 

[cnerd123]

Hashim with his 3rd! He's not going down without a fight.

Need another 2 wickets quick to keep this interesting. Morpork bat deep and the asking rate is under 4....

 

[Charlie B]

Some nice posts from Ata and Zor recently on skills and potential and balance etc ...... So in that kinda theme I'd like to ask everyone's thoughts on .......WR.

If you take my two teams as an example - Well Jura are close to being ranked 100th in the World whilst The Buy-Ins are closer to 200th.

On the surface this is because one has more points than the other !

But how are those points earnt and over what period of time?

If Jura met the Buy-Ins down a dark alleyway they'd get bashed up - Buy-Ins has a better expert preview number- so the ranking does not represent a 'snapshot in time' but more an accumulation of points over 'x' period of time it seems.

So WR is presumably based on your Divisional Position? The WR or Divisional Position of the opposition ? an accumulation of points over a given period of time? Why does one game generate x points and another y - do points drop off or get added in the same way that the world tennis and snooker rankings operate for example? I wish it was better explained so it would become more of a science than an ART

I get that there is mystery - that adds to fun and pleasure' but when you don't know how something works then when you achieve in it - it becomes luck rather than a triumph of skill and wits.


So I am very interested to hear your thoughts and knowledge - because the 'mystery' may just be my own individual ignorance rather than a collective lack of Science and order!

Thanks!

 

[cnerd123]

World Rating is about as accurate as ICC Rankings. All leagues aren't equal in strength, and teams only play against a small # of opponents over the season. They really mean nothing IMO. ZCC was a Top 10 team till the England and SA leagues were merged, and boy that went south for us quick.

 

[cnerd123]

van Heerdens and Mthabela finishing this off nicely for Morpork

 

[Charlie B]

World Rating is about as accurate as ICC Rankings. All leagues aren't equal in strength, and teams only play against a small # of opponents over the season. They really mean nothing IMO. ZCC was a Top 10 team till the England and SA leagues were merged, and boy that went south for us quick.

So it is just based on 1 season of results and whom you play in that season?

 

[cnerd123]

So it is just based on 1 season of results and whom you play in that season?

it tracks historically but even over 5 seasons you're really only playing about 20-30 different teams at best, many of them just once in the Cup. Friendlies don't count to the WR, so it doesn't have really good data to work with.

 

[Charlie B]

Another question plse- Stamina!

So clearly your stamina level impacts how much (%) fitness you can recover in a day (and if you go into a match with less than 100% fitness you are playing with lesser ACTUAL than if you had 100% - (yes i know that opens up another can of worms on what % of fitness is ok to play!) - but does it have any other impact?

So .....to summarise - does it matter at all to player performance during the day's play if your stamina is 16 or 8 ?

Thanks again

 

[Charlie B]

it tracks historically but even over 5 seasons you're really only playing about 20-30 different teams at best, many of them just once in the Cup. Friendlies don't count to the WR, so it doesn't have really good data to work with.

Wow it tracks and gives points over 5 seasons ? This would be why Buy Ins are so far behind Jura as they have had double the time to accumulate points? Both should still go up then as Jura has not yet played 5 seasons? (taking into account what you say also that the small number of teams we play will play a big part also)

 

[cnerd123]

Stamina matters loads. Read the commentary and you'll see when your player starts fatiguing mid game. Higher stamina = less fatigue. You usually want high stamina guys batting in your top order or bowling longer spells. In T20 stamina matters less, shorter format.

Wicket maiden for Harry Hadden. Is there another twist in the tale? Morpork just 4 good hits away from victory.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

it tracks historically but even over 5 seasons you're really only playing about 20-30 different teams at best, many of them just once in the Cup. Friendlies don't count to the WR, so it doesn't have really good data to work with.

If you look at the history of a team like Chester Ducks who is now rebuilding and therefore tanking both their senior teams it does seem to adjust fairly quickly. It doesn't make any real attempts to adjust for how competitive each league is (apart from maybe that a few points get exchanged in the Cup) which is probably its biggest problem

 

[cnerd123]

Wow it tracks and gives points over 5 seasons ? This would be why Buy Ins are so far behind Jura as they have had double the time to accumulate points? Both should still go up then as Jura has not yet played 5 seasons? (taking into account what you say also that the small number of teams we play will play a big part also)

dunnow how many seasons back it goes, or what the weightage of historical games is, but it doesn't reset at each season. Your existing rating is always carried forward. New teams start at a base number, forget what that is too. Probably explained on the rules or the forums somewhere...

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Another question plse- Stamina!

So clearly your stamina level impacts how much (%) fitness you can recover in a day (and if you go into a match with less than 100% fitness you are playing with lesser ACTUAL than if you had 100% - (yes i know that opens up another can of worms on what % of fitness is ok to play!) - but does it have any other impact?

So .....to summarise - does it matter at all to player performance during the day's play if your stamina is 16 or 8 ?

Thanks again

Yeah especially on batsmen stamina is necessary. A 6-7 stamina guy will almost never stay around for more than 60-70 balls at most, even if his base skills suggest he'll be fine. For bowlers it's also nice but you can sort of recover that with part timers and/or changing spells more frequently.

 

[StephenZA]

23 pop today... some of my new acquisitions getting loads. But a nice spread all around.

 

[cnerd123]

Done easily in the end for Morpork, Hashim getting hit for the losing runs. Sad way to see off two legends of the club, but on the bright side it indicates why we need to get the next gen in and playing ASAP. Congrats Magz, thanks for the game.

Looking forward to this weekend's SOD and CWC4 games. Ghous Ghani and Jamal Madani's first matches as SOD team regulars.

 

[Magrat Garlick]

Four-wicket win. Zahid's last ball got whacked by Clarke for the winning runs.

Van Heerdens with a calm and collected 31* to go with getting Shkorer out cheaply, that said without Shah-boss this wouldn't even have been a contest

 

[Charlie B]

dunnow how many seasons back it goes, or what the weightage of historical games is, but it doesn't reset at each season. Your existing rating is always carried forward. New teams start at a base number, forget what that is too. Probably explained on the rules or the forums somewhere...

Nothing in the rules - Ive had a look on the forums now and again - but that's a jungle!!

 

[Jarquis]

MG’s rankings >>>>>> WRs

 

[Magrat Garlick]

MG’s rankings >>>>>> WRs

you say that but your friendly today really stuffed your main's ranking (from 5th to 8th)

 

[Jarquis]

you say that but your friendly today really stuffed your main's ranking (from 5th to 8th)

Need to stop underestimating the Pirates!