*Official* England in West Indies 2022

[cnerd123]

How Robinson got selected despite not being fit enough to take the park still boggles me.

There were points in the Ashes series where he was bowling slower than the speeds some of the women's cricketers have achieved in this World Cup. Was proper Paul Collingwood stuff. Bowling offbreaks cuz he's too tired to come in off his full run. And now as the spearhead he can't even get on the field.

Surely there are better medium-fast bowling options in England? Is the talent pool really that shallow?

 

[Prince EWS]

Bowling offbreaks cuz he's too tired to come in off his full run.

Haha criticism of his fitness is very warranted but that's definitely not why he was bowling off breaks. They hadn't selected a spinner and wanted a bit of spin at the time - and his off breaks are actually quite reasonable.

 

[cnerd123]

Haha criticism of his fitness is very warranted but that's definitely not why he was bowling off breaks. They hadn't selected a spinner and wanted a bit of spin at the time - and his off breaks are actually quite reasonable.

probably because he bowls them a lot due to not being fit enough to come off his full run all day

 

[morgieb]

How Robinson got selected despite not being fit enough to take the park still boggles me.

There were points in the Ashes series where he was bowling slower than the speeds some of the women's cricketers have achieved in this World Cup. Was proper Paul Collingwood stuff. Bowling offbreaks cuz he's too tired to come in off his full run. And now as the spearhead he can't even get on the field.

Surely there are better medium-fast bowling options in England? Is the talent pool really that shallow?

I mean he did start his career on fire. Even in Australia he did bowl well when fit.

But yeah, agreed this winter should be a black mark against him.

Do England have any good away from home bowlers who can actually bat? Even Wood seems a 9 which when the rest are basically #11’s isn’t good enough.

 

[Shady Slim]

Haha criticism of his fitness is very warranted but that's definitely not why he was bowling off breaks. They hadn't selected a spinner and wanted a bit of spin at the time - and his off breaks are actually quite reasonable.

so anyone can just roll on in and bowl semi reasonable off breaks eh?

says something about the discipline of finger spin that posters with much more skin in the game than i might be best suited to point out ?

 

[Prince EWS]

so anyone can just roll on in and bowl semi reasonable off breaks eh?

says something about the discipline of finger spin that posters with much more skin in the game than i might be best suited to point out ?

I'm sure Jadeja could steam in and bowl like Starc if he wanted to as well. He chooses to be the troll.

 

[cnerd123]

so anyone can just roll on in and bowl semi reasonable off breaks eh?

not everyone

 

[cnerd123]

Probably worth sharing this gem too

 

[ataraxia]

not everyone

if I started chucking offies I could bowl like that

 

[Lillian Thomson]

For a tour where there was “nothing to learn” by picking Anderson and Broad they’ve managed to learn sod all anyway.

 

[honestbharani]

For a tour where there was “nothing to learn” by picking Anderson and Broad they’ve managed to learn sod all anyway.

Not true at all.


They learned that they should have played Stokes, Foakes, Woakes all along. They are unbeaten when they have done that.

 

[morgieb]

It's bizarre that Woakes got kept given Overton was still playing anyway. I can kind of get giving Overton another Test, but Woakes is clearly no longer a realistic option outside of England. Fisher didn't look too bad on debut I thought?

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Fisher was pretty innocuous, but Root giving him two overs in the second innings was dire captaincy.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

Do England have any good away from home bowlers who can actually bat?

Stokes tbf.

 

[flibbertyjibber]

Stokes tbf.

and Root. He does ok as the part timer back up spinner.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Mayers IN
Permaul OUT

Well, that's a dumb move. Brooks gets another chance.

 

[Gremlin]

Is it really a bowl first pitch? It's not quite Manchester in late April surely.

Pressure on the openers!

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

There was a first-class game there last month, which saw Guyana bowled out for 116 in the first innings...

Yeah, but this is our woeful re-branded Guyana Harpy Eagles we're talking about...

Guyana Jaguars > Guyana Harpy Eagles

 

[ma1978]

The bookies seem to be giving Aus and Pak even odds but that doesn't feel right. Chasing 280 on a final day is really tough. Remember India and England at the Oval which had a similar day 5 dynamic.

 

[Xix2565]

The bookies seem to be giving Aus and Pak even odds but that doesn't feel right. Chasing 280 on a final day is really tough. Remember India and England at the Oval which had a similar day 5 dynamic.

Wrong place friend.