Historical footage: Impressions of some greats

[NotMcKenzie]

From the same film:

PERSONAL RECORD. FULTON, ROY AD. [NZ GOLF CHAMPIONSHIPS 1958, RUGBY MĀORIS VS SPRINGBOKS 1956, CRICKET WAIKATO VS AUSTRALIA 1950, RUGBY AUSTRALIA VS KING COUNTRY 1949]

NZ Golf Championships 1958. Title: “RUGBY. MAORIS VS SPRINGBOKS. EDEN PARK AUG. 1956.” Footage of same. (Final score: South Africa 37, NZ Māoris 0.) Title: “THE END.” Title: “THE TEST MATCH, EDEN PARK.” Cover of ‘Souvenir programme British Isles v New Zealand at Eden Park, July 29, 1950.’...

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The guy has also taken film of some tests from Australia, which are not identified or acknowledged by the archivists.

At 24:41 in the video, it starts showing a test from the MCG. I assume it is Ashes. I think it may be 1954/55 series, I think I see Frank Tyson's action?
Side on footage. Good view of runups and bowling actions of the quicks. But unfortunately part of bannister obscure part of the pitch.
When some of the slow bowlers are on, he has the camera in a position with unobstructed view.
He shows the moment the winning team run and grab stumps, but is a hard edit just before that, so don't see the actual final wicket.

Then at 29:01 there is footage of a test match from SCG. (great panorama panning shot of the stadium as it was at the time).
Excellent side-on footage of the match from this part of the film.

I can't tell who is bowling. But it possibly includes Miller, Lindwall, ( no left arm quick, so not Davidson), or maybe Statham, Tyson etc ?

It it is the 1954/55 series. There are 2 tests at Sydney. Probably can identify the match by whether Keith Miller is bowling or not (as he only played one of them). I have a feeling it is Miller that the guys films for about 3 or 4 delivers in succession.
Or if anyone recognises Trevor Bailey bowling? Then it is 2nd test.

http://static.espncricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/1950S/1954-55/ENG_IN_AUS/

It is 1950/51: the bowler at 25:46 with the skipping run-up and windmilling action is clearly Doug Wright, and I reckon that the previous bowler filmed at the same end is Trevor Bailey, with Bedser at the other end. After the innings change, it is Johnson, Iverson and Lindwall.

Preceeding this, at 17:15, is the Otago vs MCC match at Dunedin in 1947, judging by the score of 197 for Sutcliffe and the presence of Voce and Pollard.

England v Otago at Dunedin, 15-18 Mar 1947

 

[Starfighter]

There is also the 4th test vs England in 1930. The only bowler I can confidently identify is Nichols, the fast bowler bowling towards the camera at four minutes or so.

(NZ - M.C.C. CRICKET MATCH, AUCKLAND FEB 22 1930)

New Zealand v England, 1929/30, 4th Test Eden Park, Auckland, 21,22,24 February 1930 (3-day match) Result: Match drawn England wins the 4-Test series 1-0 Side on view of batsmen and bowlers at the crease. Crowd scenes. Elevated view of play from fine leg. Batsman charging, pulling ball...

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And from after 3 minutes is some footage, almost entirely from the first day, of the last test in 1954/55. Naturally, the cameras weren't rolling when NZ were bowled out for 26.

PACIFIC MAGAZINE 12

1. SEEDS FROM CENTRAL: An agricultural item on seed production showing a factory, industrial machinery, women bagging seed, seed being inspected by government officials, transportation and sale. Set in Cromwell, Central Otago. 2. MCC vs NZ LAST TEST: The English cricket team play New Zealand at...

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[the big bambino]

In the top film I think the bowler just before Nichols is Barratt, though possibly Worthington. Both were bald but I favour it being Barratt as the scorecard shows him bowling just below Nichols. The NZ openers are shown walking out just beforehand. So I think the action is the opening overs of their innings.

Later on you see a scorecard and Worthington's name isn't shown. He was the 6th and last bowler used and hadn't been called upon to that point. So the bowler is most likely Barratt. Of course these old clips tended to jump about timeframes but this one looks fairly orderly to me. At around 4:40 you see another bowler whom I think is Allom judging from his height. Later on you see Woolley's left armers and possibly Bowley's leggies.

 

[HookShot]

There is also the 4th test vs England in 1930. The only bowler I can confidently identify is Nichols, the fast bowler bowling towards the camera at four minutes or so.

(NZ - M.C.C. CRICKET MATCH, AUCKLAND FEB 22 1930)

New Zealand v England, 1929/30, 4th Test Eden Park, Auckland, 21,22,24 February 1930 (3-day match) Result: Match drawn England wins the 4-Test series 1-0 Side on view of batsmen and bowlers at the crease. Crowd scenes. Elevated view of play from fine leg. Batsman charging, pulling ball...

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And from after 3 minutes is some footage, almost entirely from the first day, of the last test in 1954/55. Naturally, the cameras weren't rolling when NZ were bowled out for 26.

PACIFIC MAGAZINE 12

1. SEEDS FROM CENTRAL: An agricultural item on seed production showing a factory, industrial machinery, women bagging seed, seed being inspected by government officials, transportation and sale. Set in Cromwell, Central Otago. 2. MCC vs NZ LAST TEST: The English cricket team play New Zealand at...

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Hi Starfighter. I clicked on those two thinks but cannot see/find any videos. Hints?

 

[HookShot]

Found this really cool photo. Why is it cool? Because it shows Bill Lockwood bowling to Victor Trumper in ‘Gilbert Jessop’s Match’ 1902.

 

[HookShot]

Fred Spofforth’s leap....

 

[Line and Length]

Found this really cool photo. Why is it cool? Because it shows Bill Lockwood bowling to Victor Trumper in ‘Gilbert Jessop’s Match’ 1902.

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The outfielders and 1st slip are all standing flat-footed.

 

[the big bambino]

@HookShot

You posted a vid on starfighter's thread. Perhaps you can re post it on this one instead?

Edit. I see you already have posted on here ...

 

[Starfighter]

Edit. I see you already have posted on here ...

Sure has

 

[HookShot]

Here’s some good footage of Sutcliffe and Leyland batting against Larwood and the other Nottingham bowlers. Sutcliffe bats as I would expect by getting behind the line of every ball, but Leyland is obviously a more attacking batsman who seems to be using a very heavy bat judging by his swing. Verity and Bill Bowes look immaculate in their bowling as usual.

 

[Brook's side]

In spite of the title, this is in fact the Tied Test of 1960. The film, with sound, features a good amount of nice attacking strokes from both sides' batsmen, particularly from Sobers, and also a good beamer from Wes Hall at 7.04.

(It is entirely possible this had been posted before, but whatever)

Absolute quality.

Often when I see really old footage, I'm thinking, are these guys actually genuinely all that good? Would they stand a hope in hell against modern players?

I think this is the earliest one I've seen where I can answer, yes.

Sobers was obviously an incredible bat. I guess that's Wes Hall bowling towards the end? Looks frightening.

 

[the big bambino]

Still yet to see anything in your posting that is genuinely all that good.

 

[the big bambino]

Edit. I see you already have posted on here ...

More frequently than initially thought.

 

[Burgey]

Absolute quality.

Often when I see really old footage, I'm thinking, are these guys actually genuinely all that good? Would they stand a hope in hell against modern players?

I think this is the earliest one I've seen where I can answer, yes.

Sobers was obviously an incredible bat. I guess that's Wes Hall bowling towards the end? Looks frightening.

Norm O'Neill played an ATG knock int he Tied Test too. @Days of Grace how does it figure in your innings rankings.

And Davo, 11 wickets and 120 runs for the match. WAFG he was.

 

[JBMAC]

Norm O'Neill played an ATG knock int he Tied Test too. @Days of Grace how does it figure in your innings rankings.

And Davo, 11 wickets and 120 runs for the match. WAFG he was.

I was there for the whole match and it was the best i have ever seen played. Norm O,Neill's 180 odd(I think) was picture perfect and Dav is one underated bowler when we talk of ATG's

 

[Burgey]

FMD what a game to attend.

It's interesting watching these clips and seeing the leg trap fields which were still being set. I understand the restriction on leg side fielders came about in 1960, but it looks like they had more than that in some of these clips, though it's a bit hard to tell with the limited camera angles.

 

[Starfighter]

FMD what a game to attend.

It's interesting watching these clips and seeing the leg trap fields which were still being set. I understand the restriction on leg side fielders came about in 1960, but it looks like they had more than that in some of these clips, though it's a bit hard to tell with the limited camera angles.

Davidson certainly has more at the end. Mightn't have changed at the same time everywhere. It was '58 in England. Maybe I can dig something up from the 58/59 Ashes.

I know the West Indies refused to play under the front foot no ball rule in '63 against England, implicitly to maintain the advantage of the old rule for their fast bowlers.

 

[a massive zebra]

An incredibly detailed and thoroughly researched biography of the first Test cricketer to die in battle: