Wasim Akram vs Allan Donald

[subshakerz]

I believe Donald himself rates Wasim at the very top, among guys like Holding and Marshall. You can sense the fanboy in him when he talks about them.

Ambrose and Walsh also put Akram at the top too.

 

[Chrish]

I am biased toward Donald because he destroyed us repeatedly. And Akram didn’t really play against us due to politics. For that reason I saw way more of Donald who was pretty scary.

So voting for Donald even though Wasim probably is a better bowler.

 

[Gnske]

We should consult @Gnske with regards to Warnie's nightmares

Looks in a miror, he's bald. Turns around and sees Steve Waugh and Mitch Starc erotically feeling their own hair while Liz Hurley is sitting in a chair with a video camera in the corner with a salad in her left hand.

 

[Gob]

Looks in a miror, he's bald. Turns around and sees Steve Waugh and Mitch Starc erotically feeling their own hair while Liz Hurley is sitting in a chair with a video camera in the corner with a salad in her left hand.

And there is a knock on the door. Warnie stares motionlessly at the door as the intruder, uninvited, sees himself in

Its Arjuna Ranatunge with an opened bag of cheetos

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

We have gone through this and everyone(including you) had agreed that this is a bull***t statistic.

Its not relevant as actual average, but its still relevant. If not, why most of the ATGs in comparable range?

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Ambrose and Walsh also put Akram at the top too.

CW rates Ambrose higher than Akram, because when they played together Ambrose was taking one top order wicket more per 33 innings. Lol.

 

[Kirkut]

Babar Azam is better than Bradman. CW is simply biased.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Babar Azam is better than Bradman. CW is simply biased.

Agree with the last point.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Only a matter of time before we are convinced that Akram > Marshall in tests.

Marshall 13 year career
81 tests, 151 innings, 376 wickets
20.94 avg, 2.68 ER, 46.7 SR
22 x 5, 4 x 10

Akram after 13 years
77 tests, 134 innings, 334 wickets
22.34 avg, 2.58 ER, 51.9 SR
21 x 5, 4 x 10

Akram played for Pakistan, Marshall played for 80s WI.

 

[gftw]

What do reckon Akram would have averaged if he played for that West Indies side Marshall played in? 16? Maybe 15?

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

What do reckon Akram would have averaged if he played for that West Indies side Marshall played in? 16? Maybe 15?

Definitely less than 20.94.

Why is Innings per test is low for Pak pacers compared to other ATGs?

 

[Gob]

Cos they got trounced by an innings more often which they wouldn't have had Wasim been anywhere near as good as Marshall

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Cos they got trounced by an innings more often which they wouldn't have had Wasim been anywhere near as good as Marshall

Imran 1.61 innings per test
Akram 1.74 innings per test.

Akram >> Imran.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Cos they got trounced by an innings more often which they wouldn't have had Wasim been anywhere near as good as Marshall

Still Akram > Marshall ( 13 years)
In terms of wicket per innings, 5fers / test, 10/test, ER.. ?

 

[subshakerz]

Imran 1.61 innings per test
Akram 1.74 innings per test.

Akram >> Imran.

Wasim played a bit against Zimbabwe though.

 

[_00_deathscar]

It's a compliment and not really fanboying IMO. I mean do you seriously think that Tendulkar gave Warne nightmares?

Yes

 

[HookShot]

Sure Marshall was part of the Windies quartet, but Wasim had Waqar, Shoaib and Saqlain to help him.

And they still couldn’t get Langer or Gilchrist out. Can’t imagine Marshall having too much of a problem against two rookies.

https://wisden.com/stories/features/the-gilchrist-langer-hobart-show-that-launched-two-glorious-careers/amp

 

[HookShot]

Don’t get me wrong, big Wasim fan. But I don’t think that stats tell the whole story when trying to compare Wasim to Marshall.

 

[ankitj]

So many new and original points being made in this thread.

 

[Bolo.]

Donald's record is just so much better.

Can see the argument for Wasim being comparable despite his worse record, but he was just so unthreatening whenever I watched that the comparison seems silly to me, even though I know what I watched was not at all representative.