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All time world test XI selection
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TheJediBrah
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How about not blaming both parties when only one is at fault
TheJediBrah
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so your advice would be something along the lines of "don't say anything ever in case Indian poster gets mad and ruins thread"?
you're kind of demonstrating my point TJB
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If anything I'd be much more likely to biased towards the Zimbabwean player too.
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Common sense is not that common
honestbharani
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bots dont have opinions though.
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Given I'm one of the biggest barrow-pushers of the idea Flower was a subpar keeper and also happen to be Australian I thought you were referring to me tbh
honestbharani
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Lol... I have no idea how much cricket you have seen and I did not mean you.
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Whatever I recall about Flower as a keeper is that he was totally fine, though nothing great. I think the narrative when Taibu emerged was that he was the better keeper and Flower was so good as a batsman that he can play as a batsman. And I think he was also captain then. So had to manage too much out there.
The best Zim team I recall was led by Alastair Campbell and had Neil Johnson and Murray Goodwin where Flower definitely fitted in as the #5/6 and keeper.
The best Zim team I recall was led by Alastair Campbell and had Neil Johnson and Murray Goodwin where Flower definitely fitted in as the #5/6 and keeper.
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Credit to you for at least admitting you're attacking me for no reason I guess
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Exactly my thoughts as well.
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That's fine, but as a keeper at a relatively decent level of cricket his keeping always stuck put to me like a sore thumb as among the worst I've seen at international level, and as PEWS says the general consensus among Zimbabwe fans was that his keeping was not good. Nowhere near as good as Sanga or ABdV for example.
If you're picking him to keep in an ATG team it's a bold call when he's just about good enough to play as a bat alone
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This is where I have an issue. He was not Gilchrist but not a Kamran Akmal or Parthiv Patel as well.
Yeah definitely not as good as Sanga or ABDV in keeping but he can keep for an ATG team and come off from the match without much blame.
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Yeah fair enough, his batting is pretty OP compared to specialist keepers. If it was a choice between Flower and one of AB or Sanga I don't get why you would go for Flower though
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Yeah, he was awesome and did his thing coming down the order irrespective of who the position was.
Struck at 92 across 20 matches against England, presumably Ashes. Wow.
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Andy Flower is a personal favorite, probably due to watching his many knocks during my peak time of watching cricket. But yes, Sanga should score over both Andy and AB in this regard.
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But is he only to be judged on that one Test, or we can now count his entire pre-war career? I love Faulkner and rate him very highly, but that feels like a cheat!