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The Great Indian Middle Order Crisis Thread
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karan_fromthestands
State Captain
A simple solution: don't let the test specialists get anywhere near the T20s, pay them a little extra and tell them to play Ranji trophy, county cricket and some sort of domestic 4-day cricket abroad to constantly work on their game instead of the IPL.
Mayank messed up his technique for the IPL, Pujara wants to be a part of the IPL and so does Rahane, surely they try to play with a different technique when they train for the shorter formats? We have enough resources to pick specialists for both tests and white ball cricket. A core group of players should be kept away from white ball cricket. Kohli can play whatever the hell he wants coz he has shown that he can easily adapt, but he is an exception. Same with Pant, he is naturally aggressive and doesn't change his game no matter the format.
We can keep Vihari, Mayank, Pujara, Rahane, etc. away from white ball cricket for their long term returns in tests. Again, these are very tough calls but they have to be made.
Mayank messed up his technique for the IPL, Pujara wants to be a part of the IPL and so does Rahane, surely they try to play with a different technique when they train for the shorter formats? We have enough resources to pick specialists for both tests and white ball cricket. A core group of players should be kept away from white ball cricket. Kohli can play whatever the hell he wants coz he has shown that he can easily adapt, but he is an exception. Same with Pant, he is naturally aggressive and doesn't change his game no matter the format.
We can keep Vihari, Mayank, Pujara, Rahane, etc. away from white ball cricket for their long term returns in tests. Again, these are very tough calls but they have to be made.
karan_fromthestands
State Captain
He was picked by CSK and took part in their training sessions. There are videos of him practicing as well if I am not wrong. And there's no way he would have approached those training sessions with the same technique that he had against the Aussies in the test series.
Also, ODIs are just an extended version of T20s at the moment with 2 new balls, flatter pitches and field restrictions. So whether it's T20s or 50 over cricket, batsmen will have to focus more on hard-hitting than conventional stroke play. Instead of batsmen switching back and forth between red ball and white ball cricket and making adjustments to their technique, it would make more sense to pick as many specialists as possible.
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h_hurricane
International Vice-Captain
Last 50 tests batting average 
Ravindra Jadeja : 35.68
Ajinkya Rahane : 33.41
Ravindra Jadeja : 35.68
Ajinkya Rahane : 33.41
deerkick
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
The one problem with specialists is that every single Indian batsman wants to be involved in the white ball setup. That's unfortunately where the glory is since the majority of Indians care about white ball only. Even someone like Gill who can be a 50 average test bat said in an interview the pinnacle in cricket is to win a world cup, doubt it holds up to the Gabba win for him.
karan_fromthestands
State Captain
It's about compensating them enough and making the plans clear from the get go. Someone like V Iyer can easily be told to focus on white ball cricket while Vihari has little to no chance of making it in the shorter formats so it's better to have plans for him accordingly.
_00_deathscar
International Regular
Iyer isn’t exactly old himself
Arachnodouche
International Captain
Vihari deserves something of a run just for the Sydney rearguard. He's never got his due for that performance.
Teja.
Global Moderator
Vihari is going to be fine at home. I just don't think of him as a long term solution because he is very limited in scoring options against pace bowling in suitable conditions away from home. Even at home, I think Shaw can do at least as well as Vihari and has much more upside for the future.
Daemon
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Only Rohit, Rahul and Lord have looked like scoring runs against pace bowling in suitable conditions away from home
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
Flem274*
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tbh they would.
Pujara and Rahane might give you some of the old magic. Pujara sorta has at times. Crawley, Hameed, Bairstow?...nah
cnerd123
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We've had this issues with transitions since the Sachin/Dravid/Ganguly/Laxman era. Took us ages to move past them once they were declining and now the same here.
Once you've established yourself as a somewhat great middle order player you basically get to play for as long as you like, selectors don't have the balls to drop you.
Once you've established yourself as a somewhat great middle order player you basically get to play for as long as you like, selectors don't have the balls to drop you.
OverratedSanity
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Apart from Kohli the others aren't fit to lace Tendulkar and Dravids boots and don't deserve the long rope given to them.