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[Red]

Well, I'm in iso on NYE so what else can I do?

My criteria for an ATG might be different to others, but I think any player who wouldn't look completely out of place in most nation's ATG XI deserves the accolade. It's quite exclusive, therefore. Here they are:

Openers

Hutton
Hobbs
Gavaskar
Boycott
Gooch
Sehwag
Greenidge
Lawry
Simpson
B.Richards
Hayden
Smith
Cook

Number 3s (there's obviously a bit of give here because Bradman)

Bradman
Sangakkara
Ponting
Dravid
Williamson
Kanhai
Lara
V.Richards
Hammond

Middle order bats

Tendulkar
S.Waugh
Kallis
Border
Yousuf
Kohli
Pietersen
Clarke
Hussey
Smith
Compton
G.Chappell
Flower
Gower
Weekes
Worrell
Walcott
Harvey
May
Barrington
Lloyd
Trumper
G.Pollock
Root

All Rounders

Sobers
Botham
Imran
Kapil
Kallis
Faulkner
Miller
Shakib

Quicks

Marshall
McGrath
Ambrose
Wasim
Waqar
Holding
Roberts
Garner
Lindwall
Davidson
Lillee
Trueman
Hadlee
Steyn
Donald
Pollock

Spinners

Warne
Murali
OReilly
Grimmett
Ashwin
Benaud
Tayfield

Keepers

Gilchrist
Knott
Ames
Healy
Waite
Kirmani
Bari
Oldfield

 

[Nintendo]

Where is Jadeja and pant.

 

[Red]

Where is Jadeja and pant.

You’re more than welcome to discuss why you think they deserve inclusion

 

[_00_deathscar]

Yet another thread…

 

[Red]

Yet another thread…

A thread on a forum? Holy ****!

 

[bagapath]

Is there any reason why you have included the four test wonder Barry Richards in the short list of openers but left out the 400+ wicket taker Dale Steyn in the short list of fast bowlers?

 

[TheJediBrah]

Good effort all round, couple things though

Flower as an ATG "keeper" nearly made me vom

If Sehwag is ATG then so is Hayden

 

[The Sean]

There's a decent player missing from the all-rounders list too, TBF.

 

[Red]

Is there any reason why you have included the four test wonder Barry Richards in the short list of openers but left out the 400+ wicket taker Dale Steyn in the short list of fast bowlers?

Just an major oversight on Steyn.
There’s enough anecdotal stuff about BRichards to include him but I can understand why some ppl wouldn’t

 

[TheJediBrah]

Sean Pollock
Allan Donald

bit harsh on the SA quicks

 

[bagapath]

There's a decent player missing from the all-rounders list too, TBF.

Shaun Pollock? Ben Stokes? Andrew Flintoff?
Uncle Pollock among the middle order bats is also missing. and can't find Sangakara and Dravid too.

 

[Red]

Good effort all round, couple things though

Flower as an ATG "keeper" nearly made me vom

If Sehwag is ATG then so is Hayden

Point taken on Flower but he makes it as a bat anyhow

I dislike Hayden, but fair enough.

 

[Victor Ian]

Flower looks out of place for the West Indies.

 

[Red]

Shaun Pollock? Ben Stokes? Andrew Flintoff?
Uncle Pollock among the middle order bats is also missing. and can't find Sangakara and Dravid too.

I’ve added Pollock. Sanga and Dravid are listed with the #3s

Not sure Stokes and Flintoff are quite there but open to debate

 

[Red]

I’ve edited the OP with some fixes on oversights

 

[Red]

Flower looks out of place for the West Indies.

What do you mean?

 

[ImpatientLime]

bit harsh on root i reckon if williamson and kohli make it. he's already proved himself superior to gower and pietersen imo who both made the list.


that man sobers could play too.....

 

[TheJediBrah]

I’ve added Pollock. Sanga and Dravid are listed with the #3s

Not sure Stokes and Flintoff are quite there but open to debate

You have to draw the line somewhere. I don't think Stokes ot Flintoff are there either

that man sobers could play too.....

nah not quite good enough

 

[srbhkshk]

Engineer generally considered above Kirmani in the keeper stakes for India. Not sure either of them is all that better than Dhoni anyway.

 

[srbhkshk]

Also if Sehwag and Hayden make it, so should Smith and possibly even Cook.