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Zaheer, Shami or Srinath

Who's the best bowler?

  • Zaheer

  • Shami

  • Srinath

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Arachnodouche

International Captain
a massive zebra said:
Of course, he was outstanding for a few years from about 2004, but Srinath had more pace, more movement, led his attack and maintained his form for longer.
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Hmm Flintoff was edging 93 mph at his peak. Not sure Srinath was ever that pacey. 145 kph was about as fast as I saw him get, which is/was still obviously a rate of knots for any bowler let alone an Indian from the time.
 
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Xix2565

International Regular
I do wonder, just how much do people consider the state of pitches in general when it comes to comparing bowlers of certain eras and how do you do the mental maths to make your judgements on who's better and why.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Prince EWS said:
Always good to see a random New Zealand player enter the debate.
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GoodAreasShane said:
Definitely think Srinath is a touch underrated here

Don't usually care for these types of debates. But someone (can't entirely remember who) was arguing that Simon ****ing Doull was better bowler than him, and that is just absolute insanity
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Its a bit of an insult to @Fuller Pilch that he is still called "someone"... :p
 
cnerd123

cnerd123

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Srinath was gun and his relative lack of success vs modern day quicks has much to do with the structural issues with Indian cricket during his era. Imagine if he had modern-day coaching, nutrition, physios. I don't think judging him off his numbers against Zak and Shami is fair.

Having said that I find this comparison really interesting, because in way all of their careers are reflective of the state of Indian cricket during their eras. Shami is wonderful but had he debuted during Zak's era he might have been lost to the wheel the same way guys like Pathan, Balaji, Sreesanth, RP, etc were. If he debuted in the 90s with Srinath he might have been a flash in the pan, or had to cut down on pace to maintain a career. The fact that he is now heads and shoulders above these two statistically, and yet isn't even the best quick in the team, is a testament to how far Indian cricket has come in the least 3-4 decades.

I feel like Zak is just slightly the best of the 3 because
A) He's left-handed, which adds a lot to an attack
B) His career had two peaks - one early on where he was rapid and lethal, then his late-career peak that got us to Number 1 where he cut down on pace and used his intelligence and depth of skills. Neither Shami nor Srinath have demonstrated that range and ability to adapt, at least to that extent
C) He was a proper bowling-attack leader, whereas Shami and Srinath just rock up to bowl. They've put in good performances as strike bowlers, no doubt, but Zak (if I remember correctly) led the entire pace attack and helped with bowling plans and fields for the other guys. If the question is 'who was the better bowler', then I think this has to factor in.
 
CodeOfWisden

CodeOfWisden

U19 Cricketer
Op be like :
Zaheer averages 100
Shami averages 10
But yeah their numbers are too close too call.

Lol, a difference of 5+ in bowling average isn't marginal, it is huge.

Zaheer was absolutely dreadful for half his career, Shami was always a good bowler.
 
CodeOfWisden

CodeOfWisden

U19 Cricketer
Ishant Sharma and Zaheer are too close too call, although Zaheer never had a peak like Ishant did from 2016 to end of 2019
 
GoodAreasShane

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
honestbharani said:
Lol.. it was obviously a joke mate.. Chill.
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Yes your post was a joke

It is absolutely farcical that you think falsely accusing me of having a crack at someone is no problem just because you put a tongue out emoji on the end of it. You were completely wrong to ever think there was anything malicious about that post
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
GoodAreasShane said:
Yes your post was a joke

It is absolutely farcical that you think falsely accusing me of having a crack at someone is no problem just because you put a tongue out emoji on the end of it. You were completely wrong to ever think there was anything malicious about that post
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Dude. Relax. FP is known to bring random NZ players into any thread. Its his thing. I dont think anyone thinks of it as anything other than good natured ribbing. And my post was more of a rib at FP than at you in the first place. Jeez man, relax. Enjoy the holidays.
 
F

Fuller Pilch

Hall of Fame Member
honestbharani said:
Its a bit of an insult to @Fuller Pilch that he is still called "someone"... :p
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Doull
honestbharani said:
Its a bit of an insult to @Fuller Pilch that he is still called "someone"... :p
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The 1990s were a terrible decade for NZ cricket. We made England and India look incredible and were often worse than Zimbabwe. Yet Doull was motm in rare test wins in South Africa and Pakistan. He also took a brilliant 7-fer against India's stacked batting lineup in Wellington and produced a genius ball to bowl Nasser when we won in England in 99. I stand by my words.
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Fuller Pilch said:
Doull
The 1990s were a terrible decade for NZ cricket. We made England and India look incredible and were often worse than Zimbabwe. Yet Doull was motm in rare test wins in South Africa and Pakistan. He also took a brilliant 7-fer against India's stacked batting lineup in Wellington and produced a genius ball to bowl Nasser when we won in England in 99. I stand by my words.
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See how it works @GoodAreasShane :)
 
GoodAreasShane

GoodAreasShane

Cricketer Of The Year
honestbharani said:
Dude. Relax. FP is known to bring random NZ players into any thread. Its his thing. I dont think anyone thinks of it as anything other than good natured ribbing. And my post was more of a rib at FP than at you in the first place. Jeez man, relax. Enjoy the holidays.
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There is nothing good natured whatsoever throwing around such false accusations. It's just completely unnecessary

Fuller Pilch said:
The 1990s were a terrible decade for NZ cricket. We made England and India look incredible and were often worse than Zimbabwe. Yet Doull was motm in rare test wins in South Africa and Pakistan. He also took a brilliant 7-fer against India's stacked batting lineup in Wellington and produced a genius ball to bowl Nasser when we won in England in 99. I stand by my words.
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Fair enough, and I still stand behind my words in entirely disagreeing. He had his moments, but looked seriously anodyne at times due to his lack of pace. But there are no hard feelings whatsoever, more than willing to agree to disagree
 
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